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Leroy’s Love of Lucre




Leroy’s Love of Lucre

by Donna Vermillion


The primary purpose of is to bring to light the unscriptural weirdness of Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” itself (aka KCM). However, the Copelands have surrounded themselves with the other preacher wolves also. By looking at the people the Copelands openly endorse and with whom they freely associate, we can learn volumes about KCM’s corrupt character.

Kenneth Copeland and Leroy Thompson, pictured on the set of the BVOV Broadcast (click to enlarge)

Kenneth Copeland and Leroy Thompson, sitting on the set of the BVOV Broadcast (click to enlarge)

One such “associate” of KCM is Leroy Thompson, who is famous for his supposed “prophetical” (it should be called “prophetic,” but Leroy says it wrong) Money-Cometh teaching. (I briefly introduced him already within my article entitled, How to Go to Hell with a Positive Attitude.)

When Leroy “preaches” his absurdly goofy message in churches and wherever else, he insists that people hold out their arm and pretend to “pull the handle” 3 times, similar to a slot machine motion. (Shamefully, my husband and I have been in a couple of those abominations…I cannot really call them “services.”) The people might as well clap and shout, “Come on big money!” as they spin the wheel of greed. The video below demonstrates what I am talking about:

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Well, that was just the warm-up. Here’s video number two, complete with a demonstration as to what to “confess” while pulling the slot machine lever (you know…so they can hit the “jackpot”):

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Did you really notice what Leroy says in that second video above:

Tonight, is breakthrough night. Tonight, my bills are being paid. Tonight, my money is coming to me. Tonight, I deny being broke…I’ll never be broke another day in my life.

Did you notice that he emphasized, “I” and “my” and not “you” and “yours” within his statements? Obviously, with people coming up to throw money at his feet, it was Leroy’s “breakthrough night” because his bills were being paid, and his money was certainly coming to him! No wonder he denied being “broke” (i.e. financially destitute) with so many gullible people throwing money at his feet. Yep. The “flock” was surely getting “fleeced” in that service!

What’s Up, Doc?

To his credit, Mr. Thompson does have a cereal-box doctorate from somewhere. (I am not sure how many box tops he had to collect to get it…but he got one!) So Kenneth calls him—and Leroy calls himself—”Dr.” Leroy Thompson. Now, I don’t see any real reason for using such an honorary title, since even my ten-year-old son shows more godly wisdom and knowledge of the scriptures then Leroy does. But…I don’t mind using the “Bugs Bunny” version for him (Rich says that Leroy talks sort of like Elmer Fudd anyway).

On a side note: I know some people think that I am just flat out mean when I poke fun at such people and the ungodly things they do. When I took a jab at Gloria Copeland’s lavish shopping trips in the “ministry” jet within the post I wrote called, John Copeland’s Inheritance Money, that was more than some Copeland groupies could stand. But at least I didn’t declare “holy war” on her like Kenneth did on Senator Grassley in 2008—which he did at an exclusive KCM Minister’s Conference, where he thought ONLY his faithful fans were listening. (Now that would have certainly been way out of line for me to do…wouldn’t it have been, Kenneth?)

Moreover, I do have biblical grounds to “mock” people who make such a “mockery” of Christian ministry:

The LORD’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous. He mocks proud mockers but shows favor to the humble and oppressed. The wise inherit honor, but fools get only shame.

(Proverbs 3:33-35, NIV, emphasis mine)

And to demonstrate that I have the prerogative to imitate my Father in these matters:

THEREFORE BE imitators of God [copy Him and follow His example], as well-beloved children [imitate their father].

(Ephesians 5:1, AMP, emphasis mine)

Where Does Judgment Begin?

What the Copeland-worshipers do not seem to truly realize is that we live in a prophetic (not prophetical) time. Judgment MUST come to the house of God—and the Bible says that it MUST actually begin there, and not out in the world:

For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

(1 Peter 4:17, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The LORD will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

(Hebrews 10:29-31, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Who will God “repay”? Those among “His people” who have insulted the Spirit of grace. Oh, the pimp-preachers have major “vengeance” coming towards them:

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

(An excerpt from 2 Peter chapter 2, NKJV, emphasis mine)

It is a “fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

Despite such plain and simple warnings from the Bible, there are too many people being led astray and “fleeced” by those who are in the “ministry business,” who devour widows’ houses and preach for filthy lucre. These false prophets, false teachers, and false pastors, are not at all accountable to anyone—or so they think. (There is One Who will hold them to His righteous standard.)

So what these wolves do must be mocked and exposed at every turn—for the sake of those who have given and given and given to these ministers of Mammon (which is really the “god” they really serve):

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Mammon.

(Matthew 6:24, NKJV, emphasis mine)

The well-meaning followers think that one day, if they “keep on standing” (i.e. believing for their “harvest” based on this false teaching), and “keep on giving” (which is always pushed so that the gullible may remain “faithful” in their donations to the wolves), they will receive their own financial windfall. They think they will eventually hit the “jackpot”…especially if they keep on “pulling the handle” like Leroy says!

These wolfish motivational speakers that prey (not “pray”) on their followers take God’s precious Word and twist it to support their covetous lifestyles. They claim that if you “sow” (flush) money into their “ministry” (empire), you can be a “partaker of their anointing” (what anointing?) and will, as a result, one day live lavishly like they do. (WOW! What a deal!) If you get big enough, you might even be able to get one of those “Coo-coo-for-Cocoa-Puffs” doctorates like many of them have.

Weapons of “Cash Destruction”

Lucre-loving Leroy and his jet

Lucre-loving Leroy “prays” over his new jet as he tries to look spiritual for the camera in the midst of his covetousness (click to enlarge)

So, what’s up, “Doc”? If “Money Cometh,” then why is “Dr.” Leroy doing such a strong pull for money on his website for a new jet? Well, he says on that page that “God” told him to get a loan on it. He said he could have put more money into the deal as a down payment (he has to brag a bit while giving the testimony), but he got a loan for part of the jet (comically called “Weapon of Prosperity II”…replacing his “Weapon of Prosperity I” which we guess may now be too small for his ego to fit into). Of course, this was all supposedly done in obedience to “God.” Leroy says this about it:

I didn’t know why God didn’t want me to put more money down on the aircraft until spending time with Him in prayer about it. Now I know why God wanted me to put down a certain amount. With the economy in the condition that it’s in, those that know the laws of sowing and reaping are looking for good soil to plant seed. The mission of the Weapon of Prosperity II makes taking part in this debt cancellation a good place to sow seed.

Leryo's Lucre Chart

Leroy’s Lucre Chart: He even sets up a payment plan for those gullible people who happen to also be too stupid to do the math for themselves. What a deal! (click to enlarge)

So if people “sow” into cancelling the “I’ll-never-be-broke-another-day-in-my-life” pimp-preacher’s 8.5 million dollar debt, then somehow these donors will get their own debts cancelled too? How? Should they expect people to run up and throw money at their feet after throwing it at yours, Leroy? Should they also “pull the handle” at the same time that the people drop the cash next to their sneakers? But what if they forget to do that part, Leroy? Does it still work?

Sorry, Leroy, but I think it would be more scriptural and intelligent to invest into gold and silver or something else that would actually help my family, than to put my “seed money” into your luxurious jet.

By the way, that loan is pretty embarrassing to your buddy Kenneth Copeland, isn’t it? Copeland says God told him that we should get out of debt and stay out. He even rebuked his son-in-law, George, on the BVOV broadcast for getting a mortgage on his home. And now here you come, Leroy, telling everyone that the Lord told you to get a loan on the jet so that His people could pay it off for you?

Well, any sane person would tell you that you can forget it. You can take comfort in one thing, though, Leroy. You can count on Copeland never rebuking YOU on his broadcast for your going into debt like he did to his son-in-law. Your checks are FAR too valuable to him—especially now, when his financial and ministerial “ship” is sinking like the Titanic. He might have to cut back even more on his TV schedule if you stopped subsidizing him with your gambling proceeds (oops, I mean “offerings”):

KCM Announces their Sunday Broadcast schedule cutbacks as a "benefit" to the partners instead of a budget reduction.

KCM announces their Sunday broadcast schedule cutbacks as a “benefit” to their partners, rather than admitting that it was intended to seriously reduce their media budget to offset declining revenues from donations and product sales. (click to enlarge)

Oh, and if the advocates of are not already about to lose their last meal over Leroy’s antics above, here is another wonderful “prophetical” word Leroy got concerning himself from his “atta-boy” god (aka, Leroy talking to himself), who supposedly said this to him:

…You’ve been faithful over your small jets…” [I would like to know what that is supposed to mean. Faithful? Most of the time, the wolves’ jets are put in the name of the ministry, but in practice, those “ministry tools” belong ONLY to the wolf in charge. So what’s the measure of “faithfulness” here? Maybe Leroy can go back to “prayer” and get some more specifics for us. Back to Leroy’s words:] “…Now I am about to give you a bigger one. So receive it as a Gift With A Mission! GET READY TO RECEIVE!” [Just curious, Doc, but do you ever get anything useful in your “prayer time”?]

Unfortunately, the “mission” Leroy is bragging about has nothing to do with The Great Commission. It is really much closer to an envelope-stuffing scam or a pyramid scheme. (You could not really compare what Leroy does with a multi-level marketing program, or MLM, because those actually give people something for their money.) The money being “sown” into Leroy’s life is from covetous people motivated by their own greed, who are equally ignorant of the Bible. The only thing this accomplishes, however, is to perpetuate Leroy’s lifestyle.

It is like a circular thing: See people donate to Leroy. See Leroy fly around in a ridiculously luxurious jet. See him fly to talk to more people about giving money to him so that he can fly even more. (It seems that P.T. Barnum was correct when he said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”)

WHERE’S THE GOSPEL in all of this? If you look at the “Doc’s” website, you will see a tremendous emphasis on “sowing” into Leroy’s “good ground,” and woefully little concerning the REAL GOSPEL and eternity. Thankfully, some people have already realized that Leroy and his throng of subordinate “wanna-be-just-like-him” junior cult-leaders are nothing more than covetous wolves. When such honest people do wake up, they are quick to realize that the Bible does NOT emphasize material wealth “here and now” but eternal wealth, which can ONLY come through repentance, faith in Jesus Christ, and a sincere life of faith that focuses upon the Savior:

Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.

(Acts 26:19-20, NKJV, emphasis mine)

IF THEN you have been raised with Christ [to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead], aim at and seek the [rich, eternal treasures] that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. And set your minds and keep them set on what is above (the higher things), not on the things that are on the earth. For [as far as this world is concerned] you have died, and your [new, real] life is hidden with Christ in God.

When Christ, Who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in [the splendor of His] glory.

So kill (deaden, deprive of power) the evil desire lurking in your members [those animal impulses and all that is earthly in you that is employed in sin]: sexual vice, impurity, sensual appetites, unholy desires, and all greed and covetousness, for that is idolatry (the deifying of self and other created things instead of God).

(Colossians 3:1-5, AMP, emphasis mine)

Sadly, people like Lucre Leroy think they can do all this in the name of God, and then get top billing in Heaven when they get there. Oh, the arrogance of these false preachers! Let’s cry out to God in prayer for Him to save these wolves (and their gullible prey) from Hell’s flames.

Mr. Thompson, I urge you to turn, to repent. Even the late Kenneth E. Hagin tried to warn you how ungodly your “prophetical” message had become, and you should have listened to him. Your money—and your “Weapon of Prosperity II”—will do you no good when you are faced with eternity. It will not profit you in the day of wrath. Heaven is one place your jet can NEVER reach, (no matter how much you confess it):

So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.

(Revelation 3:16-19, NKJV, words of Jesus in red, but emphasis mine)


Mr. Thompson… judgment cometh.




How to Go to Hell with a Positive Attitude




How to Go to Hell with a Positive Attitude

by Donna Vermillion



“Your Best Life Now!” To many people, this catchy title to a famous book seems like good news. But do you (and that means you, too, Joel Osteen) know what that statement really implies?

Think about it. If your best life is now, then Hell is in your future…forever. But, hey, such “preachers” promise that you can have a smooth ride on that Hell-bound highway! And at least the ones conducting the positive-mental-attitude “church” meetings can ride in style, because they receive the money that “cometh” from their attendees.

By the way, have you ever listened to that brilliant “Money Cometh!” teaching of Leroy Thompson in which he describes his “prophetical word”? (Those are his words not mine—you would think he would at least get the word “prophetic” right.) That strange doctrine, which was supposedly spoken to him by God in a grocery store checkout line, tells you that all you have to do is “pull the lever” three times (similar to a slot machine motion with your arm), and your money will come! For extra credit in the spirit, however, please make sure you write “Money Cometh!” in the memo field of your check. Don’t worry, though, if you have to put it on a credit card. Leroy’s god (with a little “g”) accepts those too. (It is also interesting to note about Leroy that when his mentor—Kenneth E. Hagin, who originally gave him his “big break” in ministry, which made Leroy a popular speaker—tried to get him to correct his errant “Money Cometh” tripe, Leroy would have nothing to do with it. In fact, Leroy would not even show up for the meeting.)

Such “ministers” are a lot like those guys who teach seminars about how to become a real estate billionaire guru. They pump you up with their motivational speaking, and they teach you that you need to do certain things in that field so that you can have the financial success they have. The only catch is that they make more money from selling seminar tickets, books, and audio and video sets, than they do by applying the principles that they are peddling to others.

Don’t get me wrong. I know that it is God’s will for His children to prosper and be in health. But 3 John 2 says that it is only when their souls prosper that it can happen God’s way. The Bible also says that prosperity will destroy a fool (Proverbs 1:32, KJV). Why? Because a fool will allow that money to become his god, and there is no way for a person to serve both the true and living God and Mammon simultaneously (see Matthew chapter 6). Unless a person is serving the Lord with all their heart, soul, mind, and strength, to the best of their ability and knowledge of the Word, financial prosperity will lead to his/her complete ruin.

Unfortunately, there has been a twisting of people’s priorities (to put it semi-nicely for the benefit of those who don’t like my “tone”). Positive-mental-attitude preachers have steered countless church attendees (some saved, some not) into putting money—and teachings related to money—ahead of the weightier matters of the heart. It gets to a point where some see financial gain as a sign of godliness:

If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content.

(1 Timothy 6:3-8, NKJV)

You would think that Lucifer’s fall, caused by him being lifted up in pride because of the multitude of his merchandise, would have taught these people something (see Isaiah 14:12-21 and compare it with Ezekiel 28:12-19). Alas! They seem unaware of that lesson from Scripture.


Money-Minded Doctrines

When money is someone’s “god,” even their prayers and dedications directed towards God Almighty are almost always tied to money in some way. And the “counsel” that these people think that they are getting from the God of the Bible during their “prayer” time is just plain weird.

For example, when my family and I were attending Eagle Mountain International Church (EMIC), there was a time when Pastor George Pearsons “confessed” something to the congregation. I guess we were all to think that this was a serious sin. His confession was that he was not “believing God” for a nice enough automobile. Once he “completely repented” (not his words, but mine for emphasis), he came to the conclusion that God wanted him to have a Lexus SUV.

Boy, I guess he was able to sleep like a baby after admitting to such a horrendous sin! And what humility to confess it in front of the whole congregation! (Of course, these are the same people who George expected to donate toward that project.)

What a guy. Never mind what real sins the man may have had behind the scenes that he really needed to repent of (in order to be truly right with such a holy God).

I also remember something that occurred during one of the daily Believer’s Voice of Victory broadcasts. Kenneth Copeland had George Pearsons on there as his guest, and the topic of their discussion was about getting out of debt. Kenneth humiliated George on international television by very critically and derogatorily asking George why he and his wife, Terri (Kenneth’s daughter from his first marriage), had gotten a mortgage on their home. Heaven forbid!

Sadly, it seems that with Kenneth, it’s okay to commit fraud by receiving donations from people for a certain project, and then to never do the project. (Except of course when the money is taken up for the purpose of buying a new jet for the chief preacher. Kenny will always follow through on those promises!)

But, “by George,” if you are getting a loan to buy a home for your family so they won’t be on the street or stuffed into an apartment, oh, what an embarrassment you are to Kenneth! George was completely messing up Ken’s debt-free marketing propaganda. (Hey, it could have hurt sales!)


Home of Hypocrisy

To my knowledge, Kenneth Copeland himself has never publicly mentioned the fact that the huge mansion he and Gloria live in on KCM’s ministry property is the official “parsonage” of EMIC. This was uncovered by Senator Grassley’s Senate Finance Committee investigation, and even briefly admitted to on a KCM “frequently asked questions” page (which confession was later removed…it seems that they mistakenly got a little “too” transparent with their financial affairs, at least within their own minds).

Excuse me, but Kenneth has admitted publicly that he is not called to pastor. Uh, so why are he and Gloria in the “parsonage” while the actual pastors of the church, George and Terri, have to fend for themselves? Let me get this straight: The actual pastors had to get rid of their home that was attached to an embarrassing mortgage—and scrape along for years to try to fix up some old house—just so that they would be living in a “paid-for” home to please Kenneth? (Not that they are broke, by any means; but paying cash for a house can take a chunk out of anyone’s budget.)

Yep. Kenneth and Gloria are definitely having their best life now.

Can you see how sick this is? Since Kenneth is a self-professed “billionaire”—and having his best life now—then why doesn’t he share some of that “good life” with his own daughter and son-in-law by buying them a house? It seems to me he could have at least sectioned off a quarter of the mansion “parsonage” that he and “Pastor” Gloria (just kidding about the title) live in, so that they could try to help George and Terri to maintain the “debt-free lifestyle” that Kenneth demands of them.

But I digress…


Do You Want Mammon or Salvation?

If you are a Christian—which means that you have turned from iniquity and received Jesus as Lord of your life (i.e. you really endeavor to do what He commands)—then you will not even pray that God would give you your “best life now.” If Heaven awaits you, then an honest prayer for the best life would not result in you having more luxury; but it would rather result in you dropping dead on the spot!

It is in being absent from the body that you are then present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:6-8), where you will surely receive your ultimate “best life.” So are you praying to die? I haven’t seen that printed on any Scripture promise cards.

I know this sounds hard, folks, but this kind of straight-shooting teaching can keep your heart pure…if you welcome it. Please do not take this lightly. We are talking about eternity. We are talking about Heaven or Hell.

God does tell us to “ask” and promises that we will “receive.” So there is nothing wrong with talking to Him about any needs that we have—or even some things we desire, like being able to take the family on vacation. However, there are some conditions:

You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts.

(James 4:3, KJV, modernized for better translation)

Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

(1 John 3:21-23, NKJV)

If you find yourself taking up the majority of your prayer time with requests for a better this and a better that, to the point where you are getting into excess and are losing sight of eternal things (i.e., people getting saved, or your heart being regularly examined in the light of God’s Word to keep it clean), then you have gone too far into trying to receive your best life now, on this earth. You are certainly not being “pleasing in His sight” when you are just begging for things that you can “consume upon your lusts.”

I admonish you strongly and in love to please consider your ways, and to consider your prayers. If you know you have been born into the family of God, then you will be certain that your best life can never be here on this earth, for that is only for those who are Hell-bound. On the contrary, your best life as a Christian is in your future:

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

(Romans 8:12-18, NKJV)

And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

(Revelation 21:3-5, NKJV)

However, please note the following warning also (which is only one of several just like it in the Bible):

For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

(Ephesians 5:5, NKJV)

There is a saying that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. That can be true. But what I am seeing today is that the highway to Hell is also being paved by simply keeping “a good positive attitude” about the “rotten here and now;” and by trying to just pull some promises out of the Bible in an attempt to make the person’s prayers sound scriptural.

The Kingdom of God is not about material things, but it is righteous, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost (Romans 14:17). All three of those things come from the heart.

Don’t accept some pitifully cheap “Prosperity-Cult” substitute that tries its best to get you so focused on carnal things that you lose sight of eternal things, which is what the Bible tells us to set our minds on:

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

(Colossians 3:1-4, NKJV)

In the big picture, it is irrelevant whether you are “positive” or even “prosperous” in THIS life. The main thing is to make sure that you are truly born again, and will prosper in the NEXT life.

So let me encourage you in closing—whether you profess to be a Christian or not—to also read Rich’s salvation message on his (biblical) financial ministry website, which is entitled, The Supreme Value of Righteousness. If you really possess that true treasure, then the temporal “wealth” of this world will seem very trifling to you in comparison.


—Donna Vermillion

Donna Vermillion








A Special Note from Rich’s Wife




A Special Note from Rich’s Wife



I am so grateful that we have had this opportunity to help so many people who have been hurt or misled by Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” (KCM), and other similar organizations. Since the launch of this website back in October of 2008, we have had numerous (even documented) reports from people who have worked for KCM—some for over a decade—who all had similar testimonies of  the ungodly emotional terrorism that they experienced at the place that proudly states, “We’re Here for You.” It is our sincere hope that continues to bring much healing to those people and to their families. It is also our strong desire that those within the Copeland family and among the leaders of KCM will take the things that we say to heart and judge themselves—for they will one day face the One Who is above us all (even above Kenneth Copeland), Who will certainly judge righteously.

We have been told by some whistle-blowers that the faithful ex-employees of KCM were (and are) heavily intimidated by the various fear tactics used towards them by the “ministry” that boasts of “No Fear Here.”  Those who were fired were apparently pressured into signing (illegal?) confidentiality agreements, and were told by these ministers of Satan about potential legal ramifications if they ever spoke out. This fear tactic of law suit threats is also documented on the recent report from Senator Grassley’s office. (By the way, in case you have been wondering what might be the REAL reason why KCM’s website says they are “Now Hiring” during this economic recession, it is because they have “Been Firing” long-term, higher-paid employees in order to cut their overhead. So it is not really expansion that is happening, but rather down-sizing.)

The workers were also told that if they spoke out and told people that KCM had fired them, then “God” would strike their households for “touching God’s anointed” (i.e. Kenneth and Gloria—the “only ones” who have a pipeline straight to God…almost up there with the Trinity in some people’s minds).

God’s anointed what? I’m trying to figure out what they are “anointed” to do. “Anointed” to give false prophesies to their buddies? “Anointed” to received obscene salaries (by faith, of course) and to fly around in style to spread heresy? “Anointed” to…well, you fill in the blank. This does not compute. And why do these ravenous wolves think that they are not guilty of “touching God’s anointed,” when they crush members of the Body of Christ (i.e. members of the Anointed One) repeatedly? My friends, the Copeland family’s public image persona does not at all seem to line up with their behind-the-scenes dealings with people.

We once told an associate pastor of KCM’s Eagle Mountain International Church (EMIC) about some major concerns that we had about one of their favorite guest ministers. He told us that he was very interested in what we had to say but that we needed to provide documentation.  That was fair. (You can probably tell by this website that we are actually very much in favor of documenting things.) So we gave proof to him.

He later came back with the cowardly reply that we should “lay low” about it. (He had obviously received instruction from his superior on the matter.) He told us that this errant “minister” we warned them about was in “very good standing with the ‘ministry'” (i.e. KCM/EMIC)—that is, in the form of writing big checks, of course—and that if we pushed the issue any further, it would “harm our relationship with Kenneth” (God forbid!). He also told us that this might harm our own ministry future (as if Kenneth was the one who had called us into the ministry, and was the most influential member on God’s advisory board or something).

The fact that this particular guest “minister” was also an admitted member “in very good standing” of a Satanic cult was completely irrelevant to the EMIC leadership. Can you see a serious absence of the fear of God here? Can you also see the propensity of this associate “pastor” to almost deify Kenneth, to the point that what God’s Word said about this issue suddenly did not matter at all in his decision-making? His “counsel” to us was very telling. It showed us his complete lack of character. But, after all, that is likely why he was placed in such a high position at EMIC to begin with.

This guy was apparently typical of those in leadership positions there. More titles! More status! More popularity! In their minds, no one gets promoted in ministry except through Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. My friends, this is nothing more than unrefined idolatry—just pure and raw, straight from Hell itself. That same EMIC associate pastor told us that he liked titles. He laughed when he said it, but anyone hearing it (and seeing the fruit in his life) could tell he really meant it.

On a closing note, let me point out we are not in the same exact category as those who have been directly abused by KCM in some way (though we were indirectly mistreated by them). Unlike many of our whistle-blowers, we were never employed by KCM. There is also no desire for “revenge” in our hearts. There is no “standing up for our rights” going on here.

Rather, we are simply standing up for righteousnesspartially for the sake of those who cannot speak out for themselves (i.e. because they have been threatened so harshly by these ravening wolves). We are bringing many things about KCM/EMIC out into the light where these issues can be exposed, confronted, and judged according to God’s Word. It is our prayer that continues to bring healing to the wounded—and that it results in a compulsion to repent in the hearts of the evildoers.


Blessings to all of you who serve Him,

-Donna Vermillion

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