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Are the Copelands FREEMASONS?: Separating Fact from Fallacy



Are the Copelands FREEMASONS?
Separating Fact from Fallacy



Kenneth and Gloria Copeland doing a Fellowcraft Masonic grip?

On the cover of the December, 2010 edition of the BVOV Magazine, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland pose together while holding hands in what appears to be a “Fellowcraft” (originally, “Fellow Craft,” i.e., 2nd degree) Masonic grip. This recent issue of the BVOV magazine contains numerous examples of Masonic imagery, and features discussions of “fellowship” throughout (which matches the “Fellowcraft” theme) as KCM tries to recruit more “partners” to support their family’s tax-free religious business with their “donations.” We will examine the details within another article. (Click the image to enlarge.)

We have been asked MANY TIMES over the last few years whether the Copeland family (and in particular, Kenneth Copeland himself) are Freemasons — and, of course, this question includes whether any of them are members of one or more of the affiliated Masonic groups (e.g., “The Order of the Eastern Star,” “DeMolay,” “Job’s Daughters,” “Rainbow Girls,” etc.).

Obviously, this “Masonic question” is one that people want answered clearly and without any equivocation. So for our 44th published article of this redemptive project, we have decided to begin answering those inquiries publicly for the first time.

Of course, other people have tried to address this issue online before, too. Unfortunately, those that we have seen do this have typically provided very few facts to support their conclusions. Unless evidence is provided to a reasonable degree, an uninformed “conclusion” is really only an assumption of fact. To assume that something is true, and then argue that it is true because of that assumption, is known in logic as the informal fallacy “begging the question” (also known as, “circular reasoning”). You simply cannot “prove” that an unsubstantiated assumption is true by that very same assumption. That is patently absurd — and certainly prone to rejection by others.

Worse yet, too often these same people also insist that Kenneth Copeland is specifically a “33rd degree” Mason. Again, this is mere speculation that is based upon the very same “begging the question” fallacy we just discussed. So since these people have no more evidence to support such a specific assertion of a particular degree, than they did regarding their more general accusation of the Copeland family’s Masonic affiliation, the accusers tend to lack ANY serious credibility with people who actively follow the teachings of the Copeland family (among whom Donna and I were once ourselves, by the way…so I know of that of which I speak). These speculating accusers simply come across as outlandish and kooky ranters, rather than sincere people presenting the truth about the matter.

Such fallacious assumptions, as those that I just discussed above, are of no help to anybody. They only serve to convince most Copeland followers that there is actually no concrete evidence available to support such a Masonic accusation.

However, this resulting false assumption by Copeland followers is also based upon at least two informal logical fallacies. The first is a form of an “appeal to ignorance,” wherein they falsely assume that because a point HAS NOT been proven before, that it CANNOT be proven at all. The second fallacy, however, is the same “begging the question” error that the accusers have often based their charges upon. Herein, the Copeland followers have themselves first assumed that the Copelands are NOT Freemasons, and then they cite the lack of evidence as the “proof” of that assumption — thus, the mix of the two fallacies — as they proceed to then argue that the Copelands are “innocent” of such charges.

Nevertheless, despite the ambiguity of the debate to date, there is actually quite a lot of evidence that the Copelands are, in fact, Freemasons.

We have been examining the issue at length for some time now, and have gathered information from KCM’s own website and other places — and even OTHER countries — which seems to demand a “verdict” of “guilty” regarding their Masonic connections. Thus, we seem to be far better equipped to address this issue than those who have attempted to do so before us.

Therefore, within this series of articles, we will provide both copious evidence and sound analysis of the available facts. And, as always, we will provide our readers with many downloads, which can be examined more closely offline — as thoroughly as you desire.


Start by Downloading Your Copy

To begin, however, we highly recommend that you download a copy of this very article as a backup. For those of you who can read English, we have provided it here for you in an Adobe “Portable Document Format” (PDF) version. This will not only allow you to archive it for offline viewing, but it will also provide you a handy PDF version of this entire article, which you can then email to others (such as KCM and EMIC staff) and/or post it upon your own website:

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What’s the Big Deal?

Of course, before we can begin examining the evidence itself, we must first answer a few questions. And, of course, the preeminent question among these is, “So what? What if the Copelands ARE Freemasons…what is so bad about that?”

Simply put, this first post of this series has been designed with the intention of providing our readers a great quantity of information regarding Freemasonry before we get into a serious examination of the evidence regarding the Copeland family specifically. To begin let me, in brief, offer the following list of the key problems to be considered with regard to Masonic membership (by anyone, including the Copelands):

  1. Although it claims to be “ancient,” Speculative Freemasonry (i.e., the only kind that exists today, versus the original trade guild that it supplanted) began circa 1717 A.D., in England. Therefore, the only things that are truly “ancient” within Freemasonry are the occult practices and doctrines (e.g., cabala, Eastern mysticism, etc.), which they have adopted as their own. Thus, by misrepresenting itself as “ancient” when it is not, the entire organization is a lying fraud, or an “imposture.”
  2. Although its members claim that it is benevolent, and even “founded upon Christian principles,” this is an outright lie which they are trained to explain to others, due to their Masonic oaths to conceal the true facts. Their alleged “benevolence” (e.g., building “children’s hospitals,” like the Shriners tend to advertise) has been their practice only since the 1830s, due to their public exposure during the First Anti-Masonic Movement (i.e., such “charity” is solely for “public relations” purposes); it consumes only a small fraction of their revenues (most of which goes toward their parties and other uses); and such limited “charity” CANNOT DO ANYTHING to erase the evil nature of the institution itself. In short, such claims are mere “whitewash on dirty tombs” (note Matthew 23:27). Thus, every member of this organization, by conveying such hypocritical “red herrings” and factual distortions to non-Masons, is a lying fraud, or an “impostor.”
  3. The actual oaths sworn by its members — beginning at the very first “degree” called the “Entered Apprentice” — include the penalty of a violent execution of the betraying Mason (i.e., their murder), should the candidate reveal ANY of that degree’s secrets to others (even to other Freemasons of lower rank). And these oaths are required BEFORE the person is even told what the “secrets” are to which they are swearing to protect. Thus, every member of this organization MUST be considered a false witness regarding the institution whose “secrets” they swore to defend — which oaths are under no less than the penalty of death.
  4. The actual ceremonies include lying myths (fabrications) about the Bible, and people of the Scriptures (e.g., Solomon, Enoch, Tubal-Cain, and even Jesus Christ, etc.), which become more and more blasphemous as the Masons advance in “degrees” higher and higher. Thus, every Freemason is a blasphemer and heretic by the mere fact that they took such oaths and participated within those ceremonies — but also because they often actually SECRETIVELY BELIEVE those myths, as if they were true, although they rarely disclose that publicly to others.
  5. History tells us that there really have been actual murders committed in order to cover up the secrets of this “institution” (e.g., Captain William Morgan in 1826), and beginning at the 7th degree of “Royal Arch Mason,” Freemasons begin to swear to conceal such murders and to protect the murderers. Worse yet, beginning at the 12th degree in the Scottish Rite, blasphemously named the “Holy and Thrice Illustrious Order of the Cross,” they actually swear to actually perform severe persecutions of anybody betraying the “order” — which persecutions can (and historically, did at times) include murder. And thus, even at the lowest degrees, every Mason is an accomplice to murder by default — simply because they actively support this murderously evil institution.

And etc…and etc…and etc. The list above sums up only a FEW of the major issues. However, the materials that I will provide for you further below expose so much more than the brief outline I have revealed above.


A President’s Take on Things

President John Quincy Adams (the sixth U.S. President, and the son of John Adams, the second U.S. President) wrote extensively AGAINST the institution of Freemasonry. He summed it all up nicely in one of his letters to a high-level Freemason, Colonel William L. Stone — a “Knight Templar,” who had to drink wine from a real human skull in order to obtain that “degree” through the rite of the “Fifth Libation” (which occult rite is also practiced by satanists, by the way). This man had ceased his active involvement in the lodge, but was not fully repentant and willing to FULLY secede from membership.

Nevertheless, Colonel Stone was quite upset about the William Morgan murder. And although he tried to minimize the evil nature of the institution through somewhat of an apologetic approach with his answers to Mr. Adams’ inquiries, he was still often quite honest about certain facts within his written replies on many points. Thus, he was persecuted by his fellow Masons for further exposing their evil history and practices (and confirming what was already exposed), despite the fact that he was only reluctantly providing the information that he did.

The following is the text from that letter. However, please note that the footnotes (found at the bottom of this webpage), and the bracketed notes within the text, are mine; and I provided them simply for additional clarity:

To William L. Stone, Esq.[1]

Quincy, 29 August, 1832.

Dear Sir:—Long, and, I fear, tedious, as you have found my last letter, I was compelled by a reluctance at making it longer, to compress the observations in it upon the intrinsic nature of the Masonic oaths, obligations, and penalties within a compass insufficient to disclose my opinion, and the reasons upon which it is founded.

I had said to you that the institution of Freemasonry was vicious, in its first step, the initiation oath, obligation, and penalty of the Entered Apprentice [i.e., the first degree]. To sustain this opinion, I assigned to you five reasons. Because they were,

1. Contrary to the laws of the land, extra-judicially [i.e., outside of a court of law] taken and administered.

2. In violation of the positive precept of Jesus Christ [i.e., to not swear any extra-judicial oath at all; see Matthew 5:33-37].

3. A pledge to keep undefined secrets, the swearer being ignorant of their nature.

4. A pledge to the penalty of death for violation of the oath.

5. A pledge to a mode of death—cruel, unusual, unfit for utterance from human lips.

If, in the statement of these five objections, upon principles of law, religion, and morals, there be anything unsound, I invite you to point it out. But if you contest either of my positions, I must entreat you not to travel out of the record.

I might ask you not to consider it a refutation of either of these reasons, to say that you and all other honest and honorable Masons have never so understood or practiced upon this oath, obligation, and penalty. The inquiry is not what you practice, or that of others has been, but what is the obligation, its oath, and its penalty.

I must request of you to give me no explanation of this oath, obligation, and penalty, directly contrary to their unequivocal import—that you will not explain black by saying that it means white, or even by alleging that you so understand it. I particularly beg not to be told that honorable, intelligent, and virtuous men—George Washington and Joseph Warren for example—understood that the penalty of death for treachery meant the death of martyrdom for fidelity.

I would willingly be spared the necessity of replying to the averment [i.e., positive statement] that the patterns of honor and virtue whom I have just named, with a long catalogue [catalog] of such men, have taken this oath, and bound themselves to this obligation, under this penalty; for I might deem it proper to inquire whether the very act of binding such men, by such oath, to such obligation, under such penalty, is not among the sins of the institution.

I must ask you to suppose that such institution had never existed—that it were now to be formed, and that you were one of ten or twenty virtuous and intelligent men about to found a charitable and convivial secret association. Suppose a committee of such a meeting appointed to draw up a constitution for the society should report the Entered Apprentice’s oath, obligation, and penalty, as a form of initiation for the admission of members. I do not ask you whether you would vote for the acceptance of the report; but what would you think of the reporters?

I consider this as the true and only test of the inherent and essential character of Masonry, and it was under this conviction that I told you that the Entered Apprentice’s oath was sufficient to settle, in my mind, the immoral character of the institution.

It is, perhaps, too much to ask of you an explicit assent to these positions, because you may consider it an acknowledgment of error. But this is the first and fundamental consideration, from which I draw the conclusion that Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong—essentially wrong—a seed of evil, which can never produce any good. It may perish in the ground—it may never rise to bear fruit; but whatever fruit it does bear must be rank poison; it can never prove a blessing but by its barrenness.

My objections to this seminal principle of Masonry apply, in all their force, to the single obligation, the form of which is given in the appendix to your volume (page 3), where it is stated to have been the only obligation, taken for all three degrees, so late as 1730, when only three degrees of Masonry were known. The oath is in fewer words, but more comprehensive; for the obligation is to keep “the secrets or secrecy of Masons or Masonry.” There is indeed a qualification in the promise not to write, print, mark, &c., which seems to keep the obligations within the verge of the law. For the promise is to reveal nothing whereby the secret might be unlawfully obtained. The penalty is also death, not for constancy, but for treachery, ” so that there shall be no remembrance of me among Masons.”

The oath, obligation, and penalty, the only one taken in all the degrees of Masonry known but one century ago, is the prolific parent of all the degrees, and all the oaths, obligations, and penalties since invented, and of the whole progeny of crimes descended from them. The natural and unavoidable tendency of such an obligation is the multiplication of its kind. This tendency is among the most obvious causes, which have led to the interdiction of all such oaths and obligations, by the civil, the ecclesiastical, and the moral law. The obligation is to keep undefined secrets. As they are undefined in the obligation itself, there is nothing in the constitutions of Masonry to define them, or to secure uniformity either of the secrets or of the obligations. Every lodge may vary the secrets, obligations, and penalties; and, accordingly, they have been so varied that scarcely any two adhering Masons give the same account of them. Almost the only defense of Masonry, after the publication, of the books of David Bernard and Avery Allyn, consisted in efforts to discredit them, by denying that the oaths, obligations, and penalties were truly stated by them. A secret institution in three degrees, the secret of each degree being withheld from the members of the degrees inferior to it, is a perpetual temptation to the initiated to multiply the secrets and the degrees. Thus it is that the lodges have grown into chapters, the chapters into encampments, the encampments into consistories; and, so long ago as December, 1802, the grand inspectors of the United States of America issued, at Charleston, South Carolina, a circular announcing the existence and names of the thirty-three degrees of Masonry.

The secrets, to the keeping of which the Entered Apprentice is sworn, are indefinite. In genuine Masonry, when revealed to him, he finds them frivolous. You acknowledged that your first feeling upon receiving them was disappointment. So must it be with every reflecting, intelligent man; nor is it conceivable that any such Entered Apprentice, on leaving the lodge after his admission, should fail to have observed, with pain and mortification, the contrast between the awful solemnity of the oath which he has taken, and the extreme insignificance of the secrets revealed to him. It is to meet this unavoidable impression that the institution is graduated. The lure of curiosity is still held out, and its attractive power is sinewed,[2] by the very disappointment which the apprentice has experienced. He takes the degrees of Fellowcraft and Master Mason, and still finds disappointment—still finds himself bound by tremendous oaths to keep trifling and frivolous secrets. The practice of the institution is deceptive and fraudulent. It holds out to him a promise which it never performs. Its promise is light; its performance is darkness.

But it introduces him to intimate, confidential, and exclusive relations, with a select and limited circle of other men—and to the same confidential and exclusive relations, with great multitudes of men belonging to every civilized nation throughout the globe. The Entered Apprentice’s oath is merely an oath of secrecy; but the candidate who takes it has pledged himself, by his application for admission, to conform to all the ancient established usages and customs of the fraternity. And the charge of the master, given him upon the Bible, compasses, and square, presents him with three precious jewels—a listening ear, a silent tongue, and a faithful heart—all, of course, exclusively applicable to the secrets revealed to him; and he is told that the listening ear teaches him to listen to the instructions of the worshipful master, but more especially to the cries of a worthy distressed brother; and the faithful heart teaches him to be faithful to the instructions of the worshipful master at all times, but more especially to keep and conceal the secrets of Masonry, and those of a brother, when given to him in charge as such, that they may remain as secure and inviolable in his (the Entered Apprentice’s) breast as in his (the brother’s) own. Two check-words are also presented to him—truth and union—the explanation of which concludes that the heart and tongue of Freemasons join in promoting each other’s welfare, and rejoicing in each other’s prosperity.

Thus the essential nature of the Entered Apprentice’s oath, preceded by his pledge to conform to all the established usages and customs of the fraternity, and followed by the charge of the master, is secret and exclusive favor, assistance, and fidelity to the brotherhood and brothers of the craft.

Now combine together the disappointment which every intelligent accepted Mason must feel, at the puerility of the secrets revealed to him, compared with the appalling solemnity of the oath exacted from him for the purchase of his lambskin apron, and the secret ties with which he has linked himself with multitudes of other men, exclusively to favor, assist, and be faithful to each other, and acknowledge that the temptation to make the secrets more important, and to turn them to better account to the craft, must be irresistible. Judge this system a priori,[3] without reference to any of the consequences, which it has produced, and say if human ingenuity could invent an engine better suited to conspiracy of any kind. The Entered Apprentice returns from the lodge with his curiosity stimulated, his imagination bewildered, and his reason disappointed. The mixture of religion and morality, blended with falsehood and imposture, which pervade all the ceremonies of initiation, is like arsenic mingled up with balm.

“Most dangerous
Is that temptation which doth lead us on
To sin in loving virtue.”

If the candidate has been educated to a sincere and heart-felt reverence for religion and the Bible, and if he exercises his reason he knows that all the tales of Jachin and Boaz, of Solomon’s temple, of Hiram Abiff and Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubehim, are impostures—poisons poured into the perennial fountain of truth—traditions exactly resembling those reprobated [i.e., denounced as reprobate and ungodly] by Jesus Christ, as making the word of God of none effect. If, as in this age but too often happens, he enters the lodge a skeptic, the use of the Bible there, if it have any effect upon him, will turn him out a confirmed infidel. The sincere and rational believer in the gospel can find no confirmation of his faith in the unwarrantable uses made of the Holy Scriptures to shed an unction of their sanctity around the fabulous fabric of Freemasonry; while the reprobate miscreant will be taught the uses to which fraud and secrecy may turn the lessons of piety and virtue, inculcated in the sublimest effusions of divine inspiration. In those Scriptures we are told that when “the children of Israel did secretly those things that were not right against the Lord their God,” they became idolaters, and were carried into captivity. Their cities then were soon filled with a mongrel race of Babylonians and Assyrians, who perverted the word of God with the impostures of paganism; burned their children in fire, to the gods of Sepharvaim; and “feared the Lord and served their graven images,”—an emblem of Freemasonry far more illustrative of its character than the tragedy of Hiram Abiff.[4]

The Entered Apprentice’s oath is, therefore, in its own nature, a seminal principle of conspiracy; and this objection applies to the only oath originally taken in all the degrees of Freemasonry at its first institution. The ostensible primitive purposes of Freemasonry were all comprised in good fellowship. But to good fellowship, whether of labor or refreshment, neither secrecy, nor oath, nor penalties are necessary or congenial. In the original institution of Freemasonry there was then an ostensible and a secret object, and by the graduation of the order the means were supplied of converting it to any evil purpose of associated power, screened from the danger of detection. Hence, all the bitter fruits which the institution has borne in Germany, in France, in Mexico, and lastly, in this our beloved country. Nor could they have failed to be produced in Great Britain, but that, by sharp and biting statutes, they have been confined within the limits of the ostensible object of the brotherhood—good fellowship.

[I] am, with much respect, dear sir,

Your friend and servant,

—John Quincy Adams


The foregoing discourse by Mr. Adams is well stated, indeed. And I will provide you a copy of the book from which that letter was taken, further below, along with several others.


Possible Responses

Now, before we proceed further, we need to investigate the possible responses which could emanate from Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” (KCM) and/or the family members themselves, as people take the PDF copies of these pages and forward them to KCM for a response.

(By the way, KCM has blocked this website from their internal network, so that their employees cannot see its content. So it is useless to send them a link when inquiring about their response, because the employees simply cannot see the articles. Instead, download the PDF version of each article, which we will provide you near the top of every page, like we did further above within this article too. Then email those PDF files to KCM — or whomever else you wish to send them to — and ask them in the body of your email to respond to these allegations and the associated evidence we will be presenting within each article of this series.)

Now, what are the possible responses from KCM and/or the family members about the facts we will be presenting within this series of articles? Well…

They could admit it, and repent:

Obviously, this would be our hope. Since we believe that the evidence is quite conclusive, it would certainly be in the best interest of Kenneth Copeland and his family (and any staff who are also Freemasons) to research the materials that I will present on this page further below, and to understand how deceived they have been for all these many years. Then, upon such a discovery, it would be best for them to repent of their involvement in Freemasonry and all their other sins, and to throw themselves upon the mercy of God at the foot of the Cross of Jesus Christ, and get saved.

(Yes, I mean get saved for the first time…please note my article, Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED? for OTHER evidence that none of them are currently saved; and this is in addition to the Masonic evidence that I will provide in this series that seems to prove that none of them EVER were truly born again, because they have been heretic Freemasons with a “different Jesus” and believing a “different gospel” all this time…see Galatians chapter one and 2 Corinthians chapter 11.)

However, if they DO actually repent and get saved, they will also need to PUBLICLY admit their sins and errors, and apologize to all those they have affected by their subtly (and sometimes not-so-subtly) perverted doctrines. They would ALSO have to PUBLICLY denounce Freemasonry, and send letters to the lodges/groups of which they are members renouncing their membership forever.

They could deny it:

Of course, the next logical possibility is that KCM could deny the allegations, and try to explain why there is so much evidence that they have Masonic affiliation. If they DO attempt to deny it, however, then such denials should:

  • Come from the mouths of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, and their family members, THEMSELVES…and not merely some press release written by a lower-level employee (i.e., peon) somewhere down below them, who may personally have no idea what the Copelands are involved in.
  • They should also PUBLICLY denounce the institution of Freemasonry, and expose its heinous nature within their public teaching (i.e., on the BVOV television broadcast, within the BVOV magazine, and during KCM meetings, etc.), and advise people to stay away from that ungodly institution.

They could try to “redefine” it:

This is actually a very popular method among publicly-professing “Christians” who are really hypocritical Freemasons. (Note: All Freemasons are — by logical necessity, as demonstrated by their very behavior — liars and hypocrites. They are all liars, because they have sworn oaths to mislead and deceive people about what Freemasonry is, and what they really do and believe therein. They are all hypocrites because they publicly, and among non-Mason family and friends, display one set of beliefs and behaviors, while privately, and among other Masons, they believe and do something else. All liars are hypocrites, because they say one thing, but believe another thing to actually be true. All hypocrites are liars, because they act one way in one setting, but another way within another setting. So by logical necessity, ALL Freemasons are both liars and hypocrites.)

Masons especially attempt this tactic whenever they admit (because they are “cornered” by the facts) that they are Masons, because they then try to paint the organization as “benign” or as a “mere fraternity,” or in some other way as “less evil” than it really is. However, even non-admitting Masons will use this tactic, because their oaths require them to protect the “secrets” of the Masonry in every way possible, whether people KNOW they are Masons or not.

Probably the most popular way this tactic is implemented (especially by secret Masons claiming publicly to be “Christians”) is by claiming that Freemasonry was largely “benign” (i.e., tame, innocent, etc.) before Albert Pike (1809-1891) came along and messed it up. However, the facts clearly refute this idea. Albert Pike did not become a Freemason until he joined the Independent Order of Odd Fellows in 1840 (the “Odd Fellows” being one of many Masonic groups); and he did not obtain widespread influence over Freemasonry in general until he became the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite’s Southern Jurisdiction in 1859.

And if you did not notice it before, you will see that the letter above by President John Quincy Adams was written in 1832 — well BEFORE Albert Pike even became a Mason, much less became an issue. (And I will provide you evidence below from the late 1700s which details the history of the blasphemous expansion of Freemasonry in Europe, which most certainly came to America through Freemasons like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and others, who were known to frequent those very same lodges.) Furthermore, Mr. Adams proved that from the VERY first “degree” of “Entered Apprentice” the oaths, obligations, and practices of Freemasonry are blasphemous, heinous and harmful to any civilized society (and again, that degree was present from the beginning, when the Freemasons was merely a trade guild, although it expanded quickly to three degrees in England once “Speculative Freemasonry” was born in 1717 A.D.).

Another similar tactic along this line is merely to change the subject, and to not address the question directly. This is called in logic a “red herring,” because it is intended to get people to drop the subject by distracting them with something else. However, the Copelands need to DIRECTLY address these questions if any reasonable person is going to believe that they are anything ELSE but active Freemasons.

They could remain silent on the issue:

This has been the FAVORITE tactic used so far by the Copelands to date. Questions about their involvement in Freemasonry have swirled around since at least the early 1980s. Yet, they have NEVER publicly addressed the question AT ALL personally in any way. Interestingly, this is actually FURTHER PROOF that they are most likely Freemasons.

Why is this the case? Because this particular tactic has been the “standard practice” of Freemasonry ever since Edward Livingston, Secretary of State under President Andrew Jackson (also a Freemason), became the “general grand high-priest” of the American lodges in 1830. President John Quincy Adam’s son, Charles Adams, explains this tactic’s history (bracketed notes and emphasis mine):

…Some [Freemasons, who had high-profile positions in society] had the assurance publicly to deny the truth of all the allegations made against Masonry, and further to affirm that they had never taken obligations as Masons not compatible with their duties as citizens [which is a lie, of course]. Others—and the most important of these was Edward Livingston, then uniting with the possession of one of the chief posts of responsibility in the general government, that of the highest dignity in the Masonic hierarchy, made vacant by the death of Clinton,—deemed it the part of wisdom to remain sullenly dumb, abstaining from all controversy, and suffering the [Antimasonic] excitement against Masons to blow over and spend itself in vain. In this spirit Mr. Livingston proceeded to deliver what he called an Address to the General Grand Royal Arch Chapter of the United States, upon the occasion of his installation as general grand high-priest. He recommended that all attacks made upon the order to which they belonged should be met with dignified silence — as if dignified silence were not equally a resource for the most atrocious criminal and for the most unspotted citizen….

In other words, by merely offering “dignified silence” in answer to questions about Freemasonry, and its blasphemous oaths, rites, and beliefs, the tactic was to essentially leave some doubt in the minds others by the Masons’ refusal to discuss the matter at all. They hoped to wait until opposition had subsided enough to let the whole controversy die down, and then act like it never happened. And as Charles Adams pointed out above, “dignified silence” might be used by a criminal to hide their crimes, as much as by an “unspotted” (i.e., innocent) citizen to bypass an untrue or absurd accusation. Nevertheless, by leaving “doubt” in the mind of the other person whether the Masons is in the either criminal or moral-citizen category, this rather BRILLIANT tactic proved to be the best for helping to calm the public Anti-Masonry fervor (which had started when the Masonic execution-murder of Captain William Morgan had been reported widely). This worked better than any other method the Masons had attempted to employ to their favor beforehand.

Consequently, this has become the PRIME tactic employed ever since, and seems to be the VERY one that the Copeland family have relied upon since the first major discussions of this issue began back no later than 1984.

Thus, this point needs to be very well implanted in the minds of our readers: If the Copelands REFUSE to address — in a substantive way — the many documented facts that this series will make public, then that will itself be further PROOF that they are actually Freemasons.

So to summarize our discussion within this subsection, these are the three most likely reactions by the Copeland family regarding this series of articles, and the documentation therein — documentation that will prove to the satisfaction of most reasonable people, that most (if not all) of the Copeland family are Freemasons:

  • They might admit, in the light of the significant evidence, that this is the reality (which will take several articles in this series to reveal in a reasonably full manner), and also repent, get saved, and denounce the various Masonic organizations in which they were formerly involved.
  • They might try to change the subject through distraction, and/or try to “redefine” Freemasonry as something that it is not — regardless of whether they admit their involvement or not.
  • They might continue with the same “dignified silence” tactic that they have already used for 30 years or more, which is the primary standard tactic of most Masons — and thus, a tacit admission that they are really Freemasons.

REGARDLESS of which method of response they choose: It should be quite evident to my readers by this point how utterly important it is for EACH of the Copelands to PERSONALLY — i.e., not through intermediaries — answer these charges, and to explain all of the evidence against them, if they want ANY reasonable person to conclude ANYTHING OTHER than that they are all active FREEMASONS.

In fact, Jesus said as much Himself when He explained clearly:

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be EXPOSED. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.

(John 3:19-21, NKJV, Words of Christ in read, emphasis mine)

So nearly two thousand years ago, Jesus Christ explained what I have stated further above. Namely, that if the Copelands are innocent of all Masonic allegations, and “doing truth” in their actions, personal beliefs, and doctrines, then they will willingly “come to the light” and publicly address this matter. They will clearly, unequivocally — and PERSONALLY — state what they believe to be the truth. Either they were Freemasons, and have since repented, and will now denounce that heinous “institution” and all its subgroup derivatives; or they will clearly state that they were never Masons, and will instead offer (hopefully) a very reasonable explanation for all the Masonic evidence that we will examine, which indicates that really are Masons.

However, if they continue their “dignified silence” tactic — or in any way try to distract everyone from this subject, or to paint Freemasonry in a “better light” than what both modern facts and history convey — then it will be clear to every thinking person that they have truly been Freemasons for all these years — and thus, liars and hypocrites, that still need to repent and get saved. If they choose to “love darkness” by hiding from this subject, and/or trying to obscure it, then Jesus said the reason they will be doing that is because they are “doing evil” behind the scenes. So any attempt to avoid the “light” will be PROOF POSITIVE that the Copelands “hate” even the slightest amount of “exposure” on the Freemason subject.

It is really that simple.


FREE Resources About Freemasonry

Now that I have introduced the subject matter, and covered somewhat the reasons why it is important to know whether the Copeland family (and their other staff) are Freemasons or not; and discussed their need to ADDRESS this issue personally and publicly; I think we have ALMOST built a solid foundation, upon which the evidence in the following articles of this series can be understood.

Nevertheless, before we head into the first article of this series, I think it is VERY important to also first provide you with some additional resource downloads about the subject for your offline review. So the following documents and MP3 audio files, are all 100% FREE materials that will help you tremendously to learn more about the TRUE history of this evil group (and the many Masonic subgroups).

Let me note that many of these digital copies of books are historical, dating back as far as 1798, while others are more recent. However, the age of the historical ones is not a problem because nearly EVERY Masonic lodge puts “ancient rite,” or refers to the “ancient landmarks” of the institution, upon their websites. As I mentioned before, this is a lie, because there is nothing “ancient” about them — except the occult practices that they have adopted since 1717 A.D. However, the fact that they even PUT such statements on their websites confirms that what they practice today is essentially the same heinous oaths, obligations, rites, blasphemies, and practices, that are revealed in these historical books.

The only difference TODAY is that there are MORE Masonic groups (e.g., women’s groups, youth groups, and even “Black Masons” lodges, etc.) than there were back when those were originally written. Nevertheless, since even the “new” groups have the same evil root as original Freemasonry, I highly suggest that you take a moment to download all of these resources (both modern and historical) before proceeding to the next article.

DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS: I suggest that you create a folder on your computer for these files. Once you do, then “right-click” with your mouse on the following graphic images, and then select either “save target as” (if you are using a Windows PC) or “save link as” (if you are using a Mac) from the menu which appears. That will open the download window. Then navigate within that new download window to the folder that you created on your computer, and save each file into that special place. (Note: If you are using a laptop without a mouse, then often a “control-click” or an “option-click” does the same thing as a “right-click” on a mouse.)

Any exceptions to the download instructions above will be noted underneath the graphic image in a special caption.

Note: All of the documents below are now in the public domain (i.e., are not in copyright) because of either their age, or because they have been placed into the public domain by their authors. The audio MP3 series, however, is protected by a registered U.S. Copyright, but is offered under a FREE “Creative Commons License,” which allows the free use and redistribution of the files (which license is explained on the special download page for that series).

So according to the available information, you can freely download ALL of these resources, and share them with others as well.


Modern Resources:



“Codex Magica” by Texe Marrs: This first book has been put into the public domain by its author. This resource focuses more on the occult aspects of the various Masonic groups than their history or ceremonies. However, its main advantage is that it is loaded with over 1,000 photographs/images of actual Masonic handshakes and occultic signs. You will likely be quite surprised by many of the images and their captions.

It is important that you least download this resource and scroll through the pages looking at the photographs and artwork, because this it will prepare you for the KCM materials that we will provide in subsequent articles of this series. (File size: About 32 MB)

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“The Order of the Eastern Star”: This anonymous paper on the nefarious women’s Masonic group is extremely well-researched, and features a very respectable number of footnotes and a surprisingly large bibliography for such a short essay. However, its value as a resource regarding this female Freemason organization cannot be understated, because we will be examining the signs and symbols within KCM material that indicate that even the women of the Copeland family (e.g., Gloria and Kellie in particular) are members of this blasphemous group. (File size: Only about 100 KB)


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Click the graphic image above to open the download page in a new browser window, where you will find separate download instructions.

“The Fundamentals of the REAL Gospel”: This is a FREE audio MP3 series which I recorded, and which you can download FREE of charge from the page for this series. Therein, the main subject is, of course, what the title itself conveys. There is no other topic more important in the Bible, because it is only by the REAL Gospel that we can be saved — and all true doctrines of Christ flow from a correct understanding of this “cornerstone” subject. So understanding this subject more clearly provides a critical component whereby you can more easily identify truth from error.

Furthermore, herein I also covered many relates side-topics, to include discussions of various heretical groups, including Freemasons. I also discuss the Copelands themselves within this series at several points, and make a few points regarding Masonic influence upon their doctrines. Thus, this is a great audio teaching resource…but don’t take my word for it. Here are a couple of excerpts from the reviews on the download page itself:

“…We had better know WHAT the REAL gospel is! With so many voices speaking today, it is a blessing to hear a CLEAR, BIBLICALLY sound voice in Rich Vermillion who is able to skilfully explain and define what the REAL gospel is. He lays a solid foundation from both history and Scripture and teaches from an open heart, often baring his own heart before us. I laughed with Rich, I cried with him, and I shouted Hallelujah many times as I listened to this awesome series. It is equally valuable to new believers as it is to seasoned, mature ones. And unlike so many “teachers” out there, Rich is not making merchandise of the Body of Christ because he gives it away at no charge….” (by Aletha64)

“…Whether you are a babe in Christ or a grizzled vet, you will absolutely enjoy this series on the fundamentals of the Gospel! Rich does an outstanding job of laying a great foundation for the series early on, as will be evidenced as you go further along. This series is very informative!…Rich tells you numerous times not to take his word for it, but to search the scriptures for yourself. He makes it clear that this series is about the basic fundamentals of the Gospel, and not an in-depth study, HOWEVER, you feel like it is really in-depth….” (by MrJaybee)


Historical Resources:


“Letters and Addresses on Freemasonry” by President John Quincy Adams: This amazing collection of President Adams’ writings on the subject is where I derived the quotes further above within this very article. Trained as both a lawyer and logician, Mr. Adam’s logic and arguments against Freemasonry are irrefutable — and he based them also upon an extensive research of the facts.

I highly suggest that you begin reading this book with the Introduction by Charles Francis Adams (his son), in which the murder of Captain William Morgan is described in some detail throughout the discourse. But then, I suggest that you proceed to read Mr. Adams’ marvelous “Address to the People of Massachusetts,” which begins on page 269 of the book. Therein, Mr. Adams goes into great detail how he became involved in the Anti-Masonry Movement, how he confronted the issue, and the many outrageous and vile persecutions that came against him because of his efforts to oppose this evil “institution” on behalf of civilized society, the Church — and even for the sake of sane rationality itself. This is an amazing book, indeed. (File size: About 13 MB)

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“Proofs of A Conspiracy” by John Robison: Another amazing historical book on the subject, this 3rd edition, printed in 1798 A.D., is actually a scanned copy from the personal library of President John Adams, the 2nd U.S. President (and father of President John Quincy Adams). Proofs of A Conspiracy was widely distributed around Europe and, to a slightly lesser degree, the Americas. It exposed a documented conspiracy to overthrow the governments of Europe through the Masonic lodges by the “Bavarian Illuminati,” and its publication resulted in the raid of that evil group’s Bavarian offices and the arrest of many of its members. It was highly respected and esteemed in that day by government leaders, officials, academics, and clergy alike.

Interestingly, Mr. Robison was himself a 3rd degree “Master Mason,” and is actually quite benevolent toward the institution as it was practiced up to that degree. However, he strongly denounced the subsequent degrees and their perversions, blasphemies, and evil nature — and he explains how those more perverted degrees actually came into being, and how the Masons were largely responsible for the French Revolution…even explaining HOW they pulled it off! To show you how credible this book — and its author — was in that day, the Grand Lodge of England today still only officially recognizes the first three degrees of Masonry (though it is widely known that they have many “unofficial” Masons of higher degrees therein too).

Mr. John Quincy Adams mentions this book within his writings above in such a way as to make it plain that he was quite familiar with its contents too.

I will note, however, that the fonts used in printing during that time are quite strange looking to our own eyes today. The letter “s” was printed back then with a typeface very similar to a cursive “f,” as we would think of it. So it will take a little getting used to that fact as you read the text. There are also French and German terms/places mentioned therein with which you might be unfamiliar (unless you speak those languages, of course). But once you get used to the typeface used in printing the book, you should not have very much problem following the captivating narrative as he takes you “behind the scenes” of many of Europe’s most famous historical events — and shows you things that the “history books” you read back in school have strangely left out. (File size: About 45 MB)

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“Light on Masonry” by (Elder) David Bernard: This book is the second expose’ book ever published on Freemasonry, having been published just three short years after the Masonic execution (murder) of Captain William Morgan.

Without question, the personal testimony of this Baptist minister is compelling and shocking. He was an active Freemason — and an “Intimate Secretary” in the “Lodge of Perfection,” making him quite privy to the secrets of the order — when the news spread through the lodges that Morgan had been executed by Masons. He objected to the crime, and was then persecuted himself for not agreeing with this horrible act. So he left the lodge, and became one of the leaders of “seceding Masons” (i.e., ex-Masons, or those who left the order) and served as the Secretary of the Convention of Seceding Masons — which convention authorized, and even assisted in, the drafting of his book.

Begin by reading at the very front and through the Introduction — but do not stop there. This book not only contains the “secrets” of forty-eight (48) degrees of Freemasonry, but it also contains the sworn testimony of some of those involved in the court inquiries after of the murder of William Morgan (including the testimony of his bereaved widow).

Starting on page 514, there is also the wonderful “Candid Appeal to Professors of Religion…” [i.e., those professing to be Christians] “…Upon the Subject of Speculative Freemasonry,” written by Beriah B. Hotchkin, who was the “Ruling Elder in the First Presbyterian Church in LeRoy, New York.” This is a MUST-READ for anyone who professes to be a Christian, and especially those who have had ANY contact with Freemasonry. (And I also highly recommend my own article, The Supreme Value of Righteousness, as well.)

Many other wonderful and/or shocking things are recorded in this book too. So let me please allow President John Quincy Adams to further encourage you to read this work. This is what he stated within his “Address to the People of Massachusetts” about this particular book of Brother David Bernard (bracketed notes mine):

…It was not until the fourth of July, 1828, that the convention of seceding Masons, held at Le Roy, made public the secrets, oaths, obligations, and penalties of the higher degrees. Nor were the proceedings of that convention made known to me till I found them in David Bernard’s [book], Light on Masonry.

To that book and its author permit me, my fellow-citizens, while recommending it to your perusal and meditation, to offer the tribute of unfeigned respect—a tribute the more richly deserved for the slanders which Masonic benevolence and charity have showered upon them. Elder David Bernard was a minister of the Genesee Baptist Association in the State of New York. He was a man of good repute, and of blameless life and conversation. Like many others, he was ensnared into the taking of fifteen degrees of Masonry, and was the intimate secretary of the Lodge of Perfection. He was one of the first seceders from the order [i.e., those seceding from, or leaving, Freemasonry], and from that time underwent every possible persecution from Masons, and the frequent danger of his life. Among the most interesting documents demonstrating the true spirit of Masonry, which have appeared in the course of this controversy, is the plain and unaffected narrative of the treatment which he received, and of the scenes which he witnessed at the meetings of lodges and chapters, before the murder of Morgan as well as after, from the time when it was projected in them. That it was so projected is established by his testimony, confirmatory of numerous other demonstrated facts.

To David Bernard, perhaps more than to any other man, the world is indebted for the revelation of the most execrable mysteries of Masonry, nor could he, as a minister of the word of God, have performed a service to his country and his fellow-Christians more suitable to his sacred functions. It was principally by his exertions that the Le Roy convention of seceding Masons assembled and published the oaths, obligations, and penalties of the higher degrees of the order…

This quote was taken from pages 278-280 of Adams’ book, “Letters and Addresses on Freemasonry,” listed above for your download. (File size: About 77 MB)

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“Letters on Freemasonry” by (Elder) John G. Stearns: This is another of remarkable text from history, which I will allow Rev. Charles G. Finney to introduce to you this time:

They kidnapped Morgan and for a time concealed him in the magazine of the United States Fort—Fort Niagara, at the mouth of Niagara River, where it empties into Lake Ontario. They kept him there until they could arrange to dispatch him. In the meantime, the greatest efforts were made to discover his whereabouts, and what the Masons had done with him. Strong suspicions came finally to be entertained that he was confined in that fort; and the Masons, finding that those suspicions were abroad, hastened his death. Two or three have since, upon their deathbed, confessed their part in the transaction. They drowned him in the Niagara River. The account of the manner in which this was done will be found in a book published by Elder Stearns, a Baptist elder. The book is entitled “Stearns on Masonry.” It contains the deathbed confession of one of the murderers of William Morgan. On page 311, of that work, you will find that confession.

Note: Finney was referring to Stearn’s first book, Stearns on Masonry, which was later re-written by Mr. Stearns and then re-published as “Letters on Masonry.” The same confession mentioned by Mr. Finney above, however, is found on page 17 of this 1860 edition of Brother Stearns’ second book. (File size: About 4 MB)

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“The Character, Claims, and Practical Workings, of Freemasonry” by Rev. Charles G. Finney: This is probably one of the most famous historical books on the subject of Masonry within Christendom today, as citations from it appear all over the Internet.

Originally published in 1869, this book presents one of the most logical and biblical attacks on Freemasonry ever produced. And no wonder! Rev. Finney was himself a Master Mason before his conversion to Christ, but immediately recognized that the oaths and practices of that “institution” — even at only the 1st degree — was completely incompatible with his new found faith in Jesus Christ. So he left the lodge, and began his studies for the ministry, while continuing his practice as a lawyer for a season. Many years later, as a veteran minister, and with the keen eye of a lawyer to point out facts and to present his case, Finney produced a book which was to become one of the chief catalysts for the more subdued Second Anti-Masonic Movement within the United States and England, which began about 1850, accelerated after this book was published in 1869, and then continued in different intensities until about 1910.

Again, this book is found mentioned all over the Internet, and has even been re-printed by some. However, I found myself questioning the authenticity of those versions, because they had all been newly typeset. Knowing how the Masons have distorted the original William Morgan book (published posthumously by the printer, i.e., after Morgan’s murder) in order to deceive people about the true nature of Freemasonry, I was skeptical whether ANY of the modern versions were actually true to Finney’s original text. (By the way, that also means that we should never trust any alleged “copy” of Morgan’s Anti-Masonic book, because many counterfeits were produced.)

Therefore, I embarked upon a research project to find an ORIGINAL 1869 edition of the book — and FOUND one in the archives of an Ohio historical society. After paying the fees to have them copy this fragile old book on their special copier (which copies from above, hence the need for them to hold down the pages with pencils in order to make a good copy), they produced a set and shipped me a photocopy of the entire original book.

This PDF file that I offer to you above, is a scan of those photocopies; and I give it to you free of charge — although I had to pay reproduction charges for my own copy. (File size: About 20 MB)

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“A Ritual of Freemasonry” by Avery Allyn: Last, but certainly not least, is another of the original Anti-Masonic books published during the First (and most intense) Anti-Masonic Movement. It has often been compared with Bernard’s, which came right before it. However, this later 1853 edition has the added benefit of wood carving illustrations, which demonstrate the different aspects of the initiation rites (there were no illustrations within the 1829 edition of Bernard’s Light on Masonry).

Furthermore, Mr. Allyn’s own testimony is unique to his own experience, and certainly worth reading. He makes special mention of hypocritical “ministers” throughout his introduction, who he witnessed within the lodges. Thus, Brother Allyn’s book brings forth a viewpoint that is VERY appropriate to our discussion of the Copelands. Lastly, Mr. Allyn made numerous footnote comments throughout his book, which provide very helpful insights. Perhaps that is one reason why Mr. Finney chose to quote from Mr. Allyn’s book more than any other, when he wrote his own masterpiece above — and it is quoted within Mr. Adams’ book above as well. (File size: About 37 MB)

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Website Resources:


There are also a few outstanding websites that are available for your perusal. I will list what I deem to be the most important one first, and then list the subsequent ones in alphabetical order thereafter: (Saint’s Alive): This website is particularly important because it will detail to you facts about BOTH Freemasonry and Mormonism (which are quite intertwined with each other). Have you noticed how the Copelands and other alleged “Christian” ministers (e.g., David Barton, Joel Osteen, etc.) have embraced and/or endorsed Mormons as being “Christians”? People such as Glen Beck (for whom Gloria Copeland spoke in Washington, D.C.) and former presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, are two people that have been commonly referred to as “Christians” numerous times, despite the fact that they themselves emphasize that they are “Mormons.”

Stephen and Kellie Copeland Swisher, with Glenn Beck, David Barton, and Rick Perry

From left to right: David Barton, Stephen Swisher, Glenn Beck, Kellie Copeland Swisher, and Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX). (Click to enlarge)

When you study the resources at the above ex-Mormon website, you will discover the reason for this: Any Mormon who has received a Temple recommend, has become a Freemason. In fact, both Freemasons and Mormons are buried after they die, with a “lambskin apron” upon their bodies, which they believe will “cover their sins” before God in the Great White Throne judgement (see Revelation chapter twenty) — much like Adam and Eve falsely assumed that mere “fig leaves” were enough to cover their own nakedness before God. (See Genesis chapter 3 for the Bible’s account of Adam and Eve; and I also suggest that you read both this article  and this article on the Saints Alive website for a discussion of the Mormon/Masonic beliefs about judgment and the identical nature of their initiation rites.)

Thus, we find a shockingly simple “minister test” that we can use, as we identify why certain alleged “ministers” have endorsed Mormons as “Christians”: The very fact that any alleged “minister” would call a Mormon by the term “Christian,” or even “Christian brother,” reveals that either: (A) the alleged “minister” in question is a theological idiot, for he/she does not understand that Mormon doctrine is a counterfeit of, and opposed to, the genuine doctrines of Christ; (B) the alleged “minister” is actually a Freemason, and thus, they genuinely consider the Mormon to be their “brother” or “sister” from that perspective; or even more likely, (C) both of these are true. (Ponder that for a while.) (Ephesians 5:11): This website was created by ex-Masons, with the purpose of calling current Freemasons to repent of their membership, and to call them to a genuine faith in Christ. It also has the purpose of teaching Christians how to evangelize Masons. The website’s design is old, and thus, its navigation is a bit “clunky.” Nevertheless, the content of this website is excellent and I highly recommend it. (Ex-Masons For Jesus): This website is also very excellent, but due to the similarities in appearance, I suspect that it is hosted by the same group of ex-Masons (or perhaps it was designed by the same person for different groups). Nevertheless, again, the content is very good, despite the somewhat antiquated appearance and navigation. It also seems to be designed with a slightly different purpose in mind.


Who Do We Believe?

In the minds of some, however, the question might arise how reliable the above resources might be regarding the “institution” of Freemasonry. After all, Masons often deny such evil occurs within the lodges, and they often deny that they have themselves uttered such blasphemous oaths and heresies as are reported by others. And those who have reached the degrees of Knight Templar and Knights of Malta, and higher, certainly are prone to deny that they drank wine from real human skulls, as a part of their initiation rites.

And frankly, when a husband or parent, or sibling, or a dear friend, or their pastor or some other “trusted” individual, denies such allegations, one can be very easily persuaded to believe the “best” of that respected individual or loved one, rather than to question them further. Who wants to believe that they live with someone who drank wine from a real human skull? Who wants to believe that their parents were so vile as to swear to have their own throats cut if they reveal the silly “secrets” of their lodge? And who wants to believe that their pastor or favorite “preacher,” who is so publicly pious, could be so secretly hideous?

Mr. Adams notes very well the uncomfortable dilemma that one alleged “preacher of the gospel” found himself in during the inquiries following the death of Captain Morgan. When he was questioned about his oaths as a Knight Templar, he found himself both unwilling and unable to answer the question honestly:

In the Rhode Island investigations another witness, a minister of the gospel, upon being asked if he had drank wine from a human skull, answered, “I do not know that it can affect the interest of anyone whether I drank wine out of a skull, a tin-cup, or a basin.” A third witness declined answering the question.

(Excerpted from page 247 of the edition provided above.)

Facing the “death penalty” of his horrific and obscene oaths on one hand, and the judicial oath to provide only true testimony on the other, the fool was unable to answer the question directly — and this does not even take into account the probable disgust and shock of his parishioners, should they have ever known what demonic practices he was participating in covertly.

Frankly, when addressing the issue in regard to someone you had previously trusted, just the idea that something like that MIGHT have happened is a shock to one’s sense of reality; and thus, we can understand why a person can be prone to quickly accept the evasive “testimony” of the Mason — i.e., rather than enduring the psychological effects of admitting that the person in question has such an evil “dark side” that was hidden from their view.

(Indeed, one really has to consider Masons as essentially schizophrenic, because of the “split personality” that they all have due to the demonic influences that have warped their inner character.)

So who should be believed? Should the active Masons be believed? How about the ex-Masons? What about the never-Masons, such as President John Quincy Adams (and myself), who instead rely upon the testimony of ex-Masons?

Well, the good Reverend Charles G. Finney answered that question with amazing clarity and logic — from the perspective of a former lawyer (which, again, he was, prior to his own salvation). In chapter three of his book on Freemasonry above, he explains:

…(2.) We cannot learn what Masonry is from the oral testimony of adhering Masons.

Let it be pondered well that everyone of them is under oath to conceal and in no way whatever to reveal the secrets of the order. This Freemasons do not deny. Hence, if they are asked if the books in which Masonry has been published are true, they will either evade the question or else they will lie; and they are under oath to do so.

Observe, adhering Masons are the men who still acknowledge the binding obligation of their oaths. Now, if they are asked if those books truly reveal Masonry, they consider themselves under an obligation to deny it, if they say anything about it. And, as they are well aware that to refuse to say anything about it is a virtual acknowledgment that the books are true, and would therefore be an indirect revelation of Masonry; they will almost universally deny that the books are true. Some of them are ashamed to say anything more than that there is some truth and a great deal of falsehood in them.

(3.) As they are under oath to conceal the secrets of Masonry, and in no wise whatever to reveal any part of them, their testimony in regard to the truthfulness or untruthfulness of those books is of no value whatever. It is mere madness to receive the testimony of men who are under oath, and under the most horrid oaths that can be taken—oaths sustained by the most terrific penalties that can be named to conceal their secrets and to deny that they have been published, and that those books contain them—l say it is downright madness to receive the testimony of such men, it matters not who they are. Masons have no right to expect an intelligent person to believe their denials that these books have truly revealed Masonry. Nor have they a right to complain if we reject their testimony. What would they have us do? Shall we believe the testimony of men who admit that they are under oath to conceal and never in any way reveal the secrets of their order, when they deny that their secrets are revealed in certain books? And shall we ignore the testimony of thousands who have conscientiously renounced those horrid oaths, at the hazard of their lives, and declared with one accord, and many of them under the sanction of judicial oaths lawfully administered, that Morgan, Bernard and others have truly revealed the secrets of Freemasonry? There are at this day thousands of most conscientious men who are ready to testify on oath that those, books contain a substantially correct exposition of Freemasonry as it was and is. I say again that Freemasons have no right to expect us to believe their denials; for while they adhere to Masonry they are under oath to “conceal and never reveal” any part of its secrets and of course they must expressly or impliedly deny every revelation of its secrets that can be made….

Renouncing Masons are the best possible witnesses by whom to prove what Masonry really is. ( a. ) They are competent witnesses. They testify from their own personal knowledge of what it is. (b.) They are in the highest degree credible witnesses. First, because they testify against themselves. They confess their own wrong in having taken those terrible oaths, and in having had any part in sustaining the institution. Secondly, their testimony is given with the certainty of incurring a most unrelenting persecution. Adhering Freemasons are under oath to persecute them, to destroy their characters, and to seek to bring them to condign punishment. This we shall see when we come to examine the books. Adhering Masons have persecuted, and still persecute, those that reveal their secrets, just as far as they dace. They are in the highest degree intolerant, and this every Mason knows. In a recent number of their great Masonic organ, published in New York, they advise the Masons in Oberlin in no way to patronize those who oppose them. Those who renounce Masonry are well aware of their danger. Hut, notwithstanding, they are constrained by their consciences, by the fear and love of God, and by regard to the interests of their country, to renounce and expose it. Now, surely, witnesses that testify under such circumstances are entitled to credit; especially as they could have had no conceivable motive for deceiving the public. Their testimony was wrung from them by conscience. And the authors of the books that I have named, together with several others—such as Richardson, Stearns, and Mr. Allyn, and I know not how many others—are sustained by the testimony of forty-five thousand who publicly renounced Masonry, out of a little more than fifty thousand that composed the whole number of Freemasons then in the United States….And, further, let it be distinctly observed that, as they adhered to Masonry, their testimony is null, be cause they still regarded themselves as under oath in no wise to reveal their secrets; consequently, they would, of course, deny that these books had truly revealed Masonry. I say again, it is mere madness to receive their testimony….

(Excerpted from chapter three, found on pages 23-29 of the original book.)

And since what I have provided you within this article has come from the most “competent” and “highly credible” witnesses of times past, including many ex-Masons, what we have discussed within this first article of this series can be replied upon — as can the amazing resources I have provided you above, for your own study and perusal.


Closing Comments

Now that we have laid a firm foundation for the remainder of this series, it is time for us to begin looking at the body of evidence that indicates quite convincingly that the Copeland family members are — and indeed, probably have always been — active Freemasons. Before we do, however, just a few closing comments are in order.

First, let me note that this will take SEVERAL articles within the series for me to populate this website with a fairly representative sampling of the plentiful evidence that is available. Thus, with the first “evidence” article that follows this one, I am really only introducing the first few items to be examined.

For many people, that initial sampling of evidence will be all that is required for them to reach a “verdict” within their own minds. However, others, such as the most ardent Copeland followers, will still be reluctant to believe what their eyes can plainly see.

Nevertheless, give me time to bring forth the full number of articles within this series (which will be added only sporadically, as my time permits). Once I have finished laying out my “case” regarding their Masonic involvement fully, I suspect that very few will find themselves still able to continue “defending” the Copeland family on this subject.

Second, as I mentioned near the top of this article, it is very absurd for someone to try and claim that Kenneth Copeland is of a specific “degree” — especially the 33rd degree — apart from VERY specific evidence to support such a thesis. That said, however, when such evidence IS PRESENT, we can logically infer from such facts that Kenneth Copeland must be “at least” certain degrees.

For example, the “Order of the Eastern Star” is a Masonic subgroup that was designed for the female family members of Master Masons (3rd degree) and above. So when we can logically infer from the evidence (that we will eventually see within this series) that the women of the Copeland family are members of the Order of the Eastern Star, we can ALSO infer logically that Kenneth must at least be a Master Mason by that same evidence — because he would have to be one in order for them to be able to join that other group.

In a similar manner, we will note from specific signs and doctrines that Kenneth Copeland must “at least” have taken the oaths of certain other higher degrees too, because these degrees are logically implied by particular signs, and the Masonic doctrines that Kenneth has slipped into his teaching throughout the years. So by the end of this series, we will have arrived at a certain “minimum degree” for Kenneth — but, of course, that does not necessarily mean that he has NOT been initiated to sill higher degrees than that one.

Third, let me note that, as we state at the top of every page of this website, we are STILL first and foremost “Calling on the man, his family, his alleged ‘ministry’ — PLUS his many other self-serving ‘wolf’ friends — to simply repent… and get SAVED.” Thus, again, our object here is REDEMPTIVE. We do NOT want the Copelands (or their staff, followers, friends, etc.) to go to HELL!

So it is to this end that we are now, after all this time, devoting a series to this subject.

Fourth, let me note that should the Copelands actually publicly admit their Masonic involvement, repent thereof, and get saved, and begin to demonstrate actual “good fruits” of salvation (e.g., see Acts 26:20; Titus 2:11-15; 1 John chapter 3; etc.), then we will no longer need to continue this series. So if such a wonderful thing occurs, then we will probably just post an excited “testimony” article as the last post instead. Oh, what a joy it would be to give God praise and glory by such a post!

And now, with these three closing points, let us now move to the first “evidence” post of this series in order to begin our investigation. I hope that you have already downloaded the resources I have provided you above. If so, then please click the Facebook “Recommend” button below, and/or one of the other “share” buttons at the bottom of this page, in order to share this information with others.

Then simply click on the following link to proceed to the next article:



Hey, give me a break! I had to take four days out of my VERY busy schedule in order to construct THIS article that you just read — along with gathering for you all the resources that are here for you to download. I plan to get back to work on the first “evidence” sub-article for this series very soon (which is already started) and get that published.

Besides all that, you will need time to review all of the download resources from above anyway! So while you wait for me to complete the next article, you can get busy downloading all of the materials, and then review them.

Check back here soon, however, to see if I have finished the first “evidence” post and have it up for you to read. I will replace this note with the actual link, once I do. Or better yet, you can sign up for Google’s Feedburner™ email notifications of newly published articles, by clicking here. This FREE service will enable you to automatically receive a notice when the next post has been published (as well as notifications of any other new articles that we might publish in the future on this website, unless you decide to unsubscribe later). To ensure you get these notifications, however, please be sure to look for the “confirmation email” that will come as soon as you submit your email address. You will need to click the link that is provided therein FIRST in order to FULLY activate your subscription.


Always in Jesus,

-Rich Vermillion


[1] Colonel William Leets Stone (1792-1844). A biography from The Encyclopedia Britannica Dictionary, Arts, Sciences, and General Literature, Ninth Edition, Volume 22, of 1894, describes him as “a journalist and miscellaneous writer, born in Esopus, New York, was removed to an Indian mission in the western part of the State during childhood, acquired his vocation at Cooperstown, edited newspapers at Herkimer, Hudson, Albany and Hartford, settling down in 1821 as editor and proprietor of the New York Commercial Advertiser, until his death at Saratoga Springs. His political influence was large, and he was noted for his sprightly wit. The more elaborate products of his pen relate to the exposure of mystery and to biography of an historical cast. Letters on Masonry and Anti-Masonry (1832) addressed to John Quincy Adams was his contribution to the Morgan excitement in western New York.”

Col. Stone was himself a Freemason. President John Quincy Adam’s son, Charles Francis Adams, described his father’s discourses with Mr. Stone as, “It is proper to state that the letters to Colonel William L. Stone, of New York, were in reply to letters addressed to him by Mr. Stone in apology [i.e., defense], though not in justification, of the Masonic institution. In these letters, he [President Adams] shows most clearly the absurdity of those apologies [i.e., defensive arguments] by one who, though he had abandoned the lodge, still had not formally seceded from the order. (Click here to return to the text)

[2] Sinewed, i.e., strengthened. (Click here to return to the text)

[3] A priori is a Latin term used within logic. It literally means, “From what is before,” and refers to a process of forming conclusions in a “cause and effect” manner from the propositions given beforehand, that are known to be true. In this case, Mr. Adams is asking Mr. Stone to simply think out the facts that he already knows, and to draw the obvious conclusion that such an institution as Freemasonry, with its particular characteristics, naturally produces conspiracy and evil. (Click here to return to the text)

[4] See 2 Kings chapter 17. (Click here to return to the text)

Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED?




Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED?



Is the televangelist Kenneth Copeland even saved?In extending the “Are the Copelands Biblically Qualified for Ministry?” section of the Table of Contents page, it is necessary to begin with the obvious: Is Kenneth Copeland really saved? Is his family saved? Obviously, this is a MAJOR biblical prerequisite for Christian ministry!

So herein we will explore this extremely important issue in some detail, by examining the behavior of the Copeland family, and the facts that surround their alleged “ministry,” in the light of God’s holy Word. We will look at what the government investigation has found so far in regard to the Copelands’ use of donor funds for their own personal gain, as well as some things to which we ourselves are privy to directly. We will also review several investigative news report videos for further details.

Obviously, this is the MOST important article that we have posted to date here on this website. We do not offer to you these facts—or our analysis thereof—lightly. Therefore, please review this information both prayerfully and with all seriousness—i.e. with proper regard to the eternal consequences of the solemn matters being discussed herein.

However, before we can get into the details regarding the Copelands themselves, we need to first discuss the overall purpose of the redemptive project, and then cover some theological foundations. At that point, we will be ready to focus upon the Copelands specifically and ponder this question, along with its eternal ramifications—that is, regarding the current state of their immortal souls.

UPDATE! (January 18, 2013): In addition to the points brought forward within this article, we have just launched a new “Freemasonry and the Copeland Family” section within our Table of Contents page. The first article of that series, Are the Copelands FREEMASONS?: Separating Fact from Fallacy, has already been published, and more articles will soon follow. So the question “Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED?” (as this present article asks), should probably be expanded to, “Were ANY of the Copelands EVER saved?” in the light of the evidence that the new series will bring forth.)


A Redemptive Project

From the very beginning, this website and its related efforts, have been completely focused on the same agenda that God has demonstrated throughout His Word: Redemption. As we stated quite clearly within the About page on this website:

The premise behind is exactly what the byline says at the top of every page: Donna and I, along with our family, and those who work with us in ministry, are calling on Kenneth Copeland, his family, and ministry, to simply repent. As you proceed through this blog’s articles and videos—which begins on the Table of Contents page—you will readily see the redemption-focused nature of our efforts.

Of course, since we have actually known and worked with Kenneth Copeland personally, our insights into his ministry and practices makes this public rebuke far different that those of others on the Internet.

Please also keep in mind that this is a “minister to errant-minister” open rebuke (i.e. very similar to the one recorded within Galatians chapter 2)….

Certainly, that expressed purpose is simple…clear…and quite biblical.

Of course, that is the goal of our most enthusiastic advocates to this project as well. We are all working together in order to see the Copeland family to repent of their many documentable sins (e.g. lying, fraud, heresy, etc.) while simultaneously warning others to stay away from what we believe to be a “wolf pack” that “hunts sheep” (i.e. defrauding God’s people in order to exploit them for their own self-serving purposes).

As for those who are guilty and persist in sin, rebuke and admonish them in the presence of all, so that the rest may be warned and stand in wholesome awe and fear.

(1 Timothy 5:20, Amplified Bible)

That said, Donna and I are too often quite appalled to see some “professing” Christians around on the Internet who actually seem to want the Copeland family to go to Hell! Oh, how disgusting a thought! Do these people not know what Hell is like? Have they never read the terrible descriptions of the Lake of Fire—the final destination of the damned? Where is their concern for the souls of our fellow human beings? Dear God! We cannot imagine EVER wishing that someone would be eternally damned! The Word of God says that Jesus went to the Cross specifically to prevent such a thing—if the person will accept His grace by faith and genuine repentance:

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

(2 Peter 3:9, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

(Luke 24:46-47, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.

(Acts 26:20, NKJV, emphasis mine)

ONLY an abominable and villainous person WANTS to see the blood-bought plan of redemption thwarted in the life of ANY person! That is such a hideous thought! And it certainly cannot be pleasing to the Lord Jesus Who suffered excruciating torture so that those people would NOT have to go to Hell when they die, in order to await their final judgment!

I think Charles Spurgeon perhaps had the best insight about such people who claim to be Christians, and yet have such an ungodly disregard for the souls of men:

Have you no wish for others to be saved? Then you’re not saved yourself, be sure of that!

Oh, my friend…consider the words of brother Spurgeon above! Please check your own heart, and if you find it cold toward the eternal state of others, consider the state of your own soul! Unless you repent yourself of such a wicked heart, YOU may have the SAME eternal destination awaiting YOU as those who you wish to see damned!


“Supporters”? Really?

As hideous a thing it surely is that someone could actually WISH that another be damned, it is just as abominable that some people can be indifferent to such a plight. I am amazed when I come across those who make excuses for others who—according to the Scriptures—are presently sinning their way to Hell. As “Mr. Anzalone” so coldheartedly stated in a comment to me (which full comment we featured within my article When Wolves Remove Their Clothes):

I am so upset at your blog against Brother Copeland…. [Whether] you are right or wrong. This is not the issue….

Whether we are “right or wrong” is NOT the issue?

Let’s put this into perspective: Whether we are RIGHT or WRONG about the Copelands going to HELL is NOT an issue that should be examined thoroughly for THEIR sakes? If we are RIGHT about their many documentable sins…then there is a HUGE chance that they are going to spend eternity in a Lake of Fire—if they do not repent! That is NOT “the” issue??? HOW STUPID! How UTTERLY COLD and HEARTLESS!

Oh, but again we need to look to Mr. Spurgeon’s bold observation! He so truthfully observed, “Have you no wish for others to be saved? Then you’re not saved yourself, be sure of that!” Can any person so unconcerned about the souls of the Copelands be saved themselves? Truly, the Lord Jesus spoke also of such fake “religious” people when He said:

Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

“These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.”

(Matthew 15:7-8, NKJV)

Whenever an alleged “Copeland supporter” contacts us in an attempt to dissuade us from our redemptive project, we know that we have ACTUALLY heard from a selfish person who has NO genuine concern for the Copelands and their spiritual welfare. These people are motivate by their OWN self-serving agendas, and could not care less if the Copelands go to Hell or not! Why is that? Because these idolatrous people do not have enough sense to be concerned about their OWN souls either!

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you…And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.

(2 Peter 2:1-2 excerpt, NKJV)

To such indifferent people, the Copelands are simply the “sacred calves” that they worship as they seek their own “blessing” from following these “ear tickling” false ministers (note 2 Timothy 4:1-5). So since we here at touch their “idol” with our redemptive efforts—and have even dared to suggest that the documentable sins of this family are sufficient grounds to be concerned for their souls—these “supporters” are enraged!

But should they not rather be CONCERNED??? Of course they SHOULD be!!! But such godly redemption-oriented thoughts never occur to such morally depraved people. They could not care anything about the Copelands souls because—as brother Spurgeon pointed out above—these alleged “supporters” are themselves blind to the fact that their own souls are in danger of damnation. If they do not have enough sense to care about their own fate, how can they care about the eternal fate of others?


Unconverted “Ministers”

But of course, we need to address the obvious question that many people will have by this point in reading this article, “How can the Copelands NOT be saved, when they are ministers?” Well first, this begs the question, “Are they REALLY ministers of Christ?” As we saw within the example of the 2 Peter citation further above, the Bible talks about “false” ministers of different kinds. Consequently, cannot conclude that simply calling oneself a “minister” proves that they have actually been born again.

More importantly, the Bible is very clear also that such false ministers are either people who were NEVER born again in the first place, or those who are “twice dead” because they have fallen away from the true faith of Jesus Christ. However, since we will cite such passages later within this article, I will refrain from discussing those in detail now. Instead, let us now take note that, throughout Church history, the understanding that there are actually “unsaved clergy” in the pulpits of Christian churches is not a new concept.

Please note what one of the celebrated evangelists of the First Great Awakening, George Whitefield, had to say on this subject:

“Unconverted Ministers” points made by George Whitefield

Divine Warnings:

…The Lord enabled me to open my mouth boldly against unconverted ministers; to caution tutors to take care of their pupils; and also to advise ministers particularly to examine the experience of candidates for ordination. For I am verily persuaded the generality of preachers talk of an unknown and un-felt Christ; and the reason why congregations have been so dead is, because they have had dead men preaching to them. O that the Lord may quicken and revive them, for His own name’s sake! For how can dead men beget living children? It is true, indeed, God may convert men by the devil, if He pleases, and so He may by unconverted ministers; but I believe He seldom makes use of either of them for this purpose. No, the Lord will choose vessels made meet by the operation of the blessed Spirit for His sacred use….

Strange Fire:

…Unspeakable freedom God gave me while treating on this head. In the afternoon, I preached on the Common to about fifteen thousand people. Just as I had finished my sermon, a note was put up to me, wherein I was desired to pray for a person just entered upon the ministry, but under apprehension that he was unconverted. God enabled me to pray for him with my whole heart; and I hope that note will teach many others not to run before they can give an account of their conversion. If they do, they offer God “strange fire.”…I insisted much in my discourse upon the change of the new birth, and also the necessity of a minister’s being converted before he could preach Christ aright….

Unconverted Ministers:

…The word came with great power, and a great impression was made upon the people in all parts of the assembly. Many ministers were present. I did not spare them. Most of them thanked me for my plain dealing. But one was offended; and so would more of his stamp if I were to continue long in New England. For unconverted ministers are the bane of the Christian Church….At dinner, the Spirit of the Lord came upon me again, and enabled me to speak with such vigour against sending unconverted persons into the ministry, that two ministers, with tears in their eyes, publicly confessed, that they had laid their hands on young men, without so much as asking them whether they were born again of God or not. After dinner, finding my heart much enlarged, I prayed, and with such power, that most in the room were put under concern….

George Whitefield (1714-1770, emphasis mine); Source

Now please note what one of the most effective evangelists of the Second Great Awakening, Charles G. Finney, had to say to a group of candidates for ordination at Oberlin College—men who were seeking to enter into the sacred work of ministry:

“Ordination Sermon” (of 1842) by Charles G. Finney

…Ministers should take heed to the motives by which they are actuated in entering upon the great work of the ministry. Be careful, brethren, that you make no mistake on this point. See that your eye is single to the glory of God—that disinterested benevolence [i.e. selfless benevolence toward others] be the actuating principle of your life. Unless your eye is single, and your intention supremely and disinterestedly benevolent, you are ungodly men, and have no business in the ministry.

Take heed then that you are truly converted men—not merely convicted sinners, but regenerate men, men whose hearts are right with God, and whose great motive in entering the ministry is to glorify God in the salvation of men. Remember if you are not converted men when you enter the ministry, you are almost certain to go to Hell yourselves, and, so far as you have influence, to take your hearers with you. And remember too that it is altogether too common, for it to be taken for granted on all hands that ministers are really converted men, I must say, and dare not say less, that every year’s experience and observation forces upon me more and more the conviction that it is becoming alarmingly common in these days of pressing so many young men into the ministry, for multitudes to enter upon that sacred office who are not truly regenerate men.

We have had, in this place, instances, not a few, of your men coming to this Institution to prepare for the ministry, who have turned out to have no religion at all—have been here convicted and for the first time converted—young men who had been supposed in Churches from which they came, and by which they were recommended, not only to be truly converted men, but your men of more than common piety, and promising candidates for the Christian ministry. And but for those powerful revivals in this Institution which broke up their delusions, numbers of them would no doubt have been this day, in all their sins, engaged in the sacred office of the ministry. Take heed then to yourselves, brethren, that you know what it is to be born of God, and that you know what it is to have an eye single to his glory in entering upon this sacred work….

Charles G. Finney (1792-1875, emphasis and bracketed note mine)

“Oh,” someone might protest, “but the Copelands are ‘Pentecostals’ and speak in other tongues. Those men you cited above were from denominations that did not practice that, so there is a difference!” Oh, is that true? Let us consider what Jesus said about some professing “Pentecostals” and “Charismatics” in regard to eternal damnation:

Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?” And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!”

(Matthew 7:21-23, NKJV, emphasis mine)

The first two “qualifications” that these damned souls above claimed for themselves were clearly “Pentecostal” and “Charismatic” practices—but yet they had “never” known the Lord! (Please note also that the third criteria of “good works” can include those practices found within other denominational traditions. Thus, it is not only “Pentecostals” or “Charismatics” that should take warning from the passage above.)

There is a genuine “tongues” just a there is genuine “prophecy” taught in the New Testament. But, my friend, there is ALSO such a thing as “fake tongues” just as much as there is “false prophecy.” A child can “mimic” speaking in tongues, and yet not have understood the Gospel nor actually been born again. Similarly, some have “spoken” in “tongues” merely because they were mimicking what their religious “tradition” told them…but according to Jesus, “many” of them will be shocked to know that they had never actually known Him as their Savior.

In fact, even a demoniac can speak in “other tongues”—people involved in the occult do it all the time!

So if you are relying upon the “Pentecostal” or “Charismatic” label to determine if the Copelands are saved—or even whether or not YOU are saved—then you are in very serious error. Obviously, such things CANNOT be biblical “tests” for salvation! (However, we will explore some “tests” later in this article that truly are scriptural.)

So in summary: The premise that the Copelands could have been in “active ministry” for many years—and yet, they might STILL be people that were either never born again, or which have perhaps fallen into apostasy and endangered their salvation—is a purely biblical concept, that has very deep roots within historical Christian theology.

Now let’s turn to consider the Scriptures more fully, and then begin our examination of the evidence that suggests very strongly that their souls are in danger…


False Profession of Faith

Building upon the foundation already laid above, we can now take this article to the next logical point to be made. So let us now discuss the too-often ignored theological fact from the Scriptures: Namely, that NOT everybody who CLAIMS to be a Christian, really is one.

To begin, please note again the terrifying words of Jesus Christ Himself:

Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it….

Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?” And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!”

(Matthew 7:13-14 and 21-23, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Oh, the horror! It is very obvious from this declaration of Jesus that these terrified people had THOUGHT that they were Christians! These people had done “good works” on His behalf—or so they thought. Yet, despite their proclamations of Jesus’ Lordship and rehearsing of their religious deeds, Jesus tells them the fact of the matter which had escaped their notice up until this time: “I never knew you.”

Oh, the shock! These people THOUGHT that they were Christians, but the truth of the matter is that they had NEVER been born again! They had NEVER “known” the Lord intimately, DESPITE their religious speech and deeds. They had utterly failed to find the “narrow way” that leads to life, and discovered ONLY too late that they had lived on the “broad way” that leads to destruction and damnation!


False Brethren

Another related issue is the fact that the Bible discussed “false brethren,” or in other words, unsaved “imposters” who infiltrate the Church of Jesus Christ:

Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.”

(Galatians 2:3-5, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Notice that these “false brethren” sneaked in among God’s people! They did so “under cover.” These people were NOT genuine believers on the Lord Jesus Christ—and they KNEW that fact themselves! So what was their ungodly agenda? Note:

  • “To spy out our liberty.”
  • “To bring us into bondage.”

We will ignore the first one for this article, and instead focus only upon their MAIN purpose: Namely, “to bring us into bondage.” In Paul’s case, the people he was referencing had entered into the Church with the intention of commanding the Christians to be circumcised and to keep the Law of Moses (study the entire epistle of Galatians to see Paul’s full discourse on this subject by the Holy Spirit). This would, by necessity, cause them to lose their salvation by trusting in “works” for their salvation rather than in the finished work of Jesus upon the Cross—so this was a very critical issue (please note Galatians 5:1-4).

NEVERTHELESS: That is not the only kind of “false brother.” There are MANY false ministers today (as there were back then) who are not wanting merely to bring their captives under the power of their religious order (although that certainly still happens). Rather, the MAJORITY of such “false brethren” today seem to be those who want to exploit others for their own financial gain:

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber….They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness…For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.

(An excerpt from 2 Peter chapter 2, NKJV, emphasis mine)

It is interesting to note how the King James Version of the Bible states verse three above as, “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you.”

Driven by greed, they exploit those who they can lead captive by “feigned words.” Or as Paul expressed it in Romans 16:18, “For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.”

Have you been “simple” and led astray by any self-serving imposters? Continue to read and lets find out…

Did you notice the words that I put in bold type above within the 2 Peter passage? These “ministers” are like the greedy man named “Balaam” in the Scripture, who “for a price” was willing to teach the Moabites how to ensnare Israel and bring a curse upon them (click here to see all the Bible passages about Balaam). These false ministers “secretly” bring in their heresies. Thus, these “false” prophets and teachers are of the very same character as the “false brethren” that Paul discussed in Galatians so “stealthily came in” to do their dirty work.

GREED drives such false ministers, and they see the people of God as merely a source of material gain—to be “plundered” in order to satisfy their own worldly cravings. Does this kind of behavior happen to sound familiar? Does it perhaps sound similar to a biblical metaphor?


Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing

Sandwiched in between Jesus’ warning about the difference between the “narrow way” and His warning that NOT everybody who professes to be a Christian really is one, is this very important teaching about wolves:

Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven….

(Matthew 7:13-21, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Please note: These “false prophets”—like the false teachers of 2 Peter—are VERY “ravenous.” The Greek word translated “ravenous” is “harpax” (Strong’s #727), which means literally “a robber, an extortioner”; and thus, by extension, “rapacious, ravenous” (Thayer’s Lexicon). And the English word “rapacious” actually means “given to seizing for plunder or the satisfaction of greed” (

Furthermore, Jesus said that these people are “wolves.” He used an analogy of a stupid animal to describe them! This calls to mind the very frank description of such ungodly people from Jude’s epistle:

But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

(Jude vs. 10-11, NKJV, emphasis mine… see also 2 Peter 2:14-16)

Greedy for gain, like unthinking animals, they “hunt” for those that they can exploit to their own “profit.” Money is their true “god” (Matthew 6:24), and mere instinct drives them to pursue ungodly gain by “devouring” the true “sheep” of God.

Ah, but Jesus did not stop there! He also said, “inwardly they are ravenous wolves.” The Lord has just explained that their TRUE inner nature is as a greedy wolf, and that any “sheep” behavior that they exhibit is merely an external pretense. They put on such outward “Christian behavior” in order to go hunting, because their true inner nature is that they are UNSAVED wolves. Thus, in the very next verse, twenty-one, He says:

Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven….

Of course, we also saw above that there is a “narrow way” message from God’s Word that leads to life—but do you think such “wolves” would ever teach THAT message? No, they teach the “broad way” that leads to destruction instead. Why? Because it PAYS better (temporarily):

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!…

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

(Excerpts from 2 Timothy chapters 3 and 4, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Are we in the last days? Yes, most of us realized that we are. And what is the carnal “message” of the last days that will be sought after by those who have “itching ears”? The “fables” that appeal to their own desires. The KJV of verse 4:3 above says, “but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers…”. In these last days there are some “lovers of money” who are willing to PAY false ministers to teach them “fables.” This is surely one of the many “broad way” messages of today!

Oh, but remember that the Lord first cautioned about the “broad way”…then He warned about “wolves”…and THEN He then explained woefully, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven.” So who are those who follow that “broad way” and discover to their horror that they will NOT enter into heaven when after die?

BOTH the wolves AND those who embrace their doctrine.

But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.

(1 Timothy 6:9, NKJV)

For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.

(2 Peter 2:18-19, NKJV)

And He spoke a parable to them: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch? A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher.

(Luke 6:39-40, NKJV, emphasis mine)

So unsaved “wolves” prowl around camouflaged as “sheep.” Their are motivated by pure greed, and thus, their rapacious disposition drives them to “plunder” anyone they can deceive. They are “robbers, extortioners” by their very nature, and by religious means they “make merchandise” of others by appealing to the lusts of those they seek to prey upon.

And these ungodly “creatures” can be either false brethren which were NEVER born again…or they can be ones who are “twice dead” and have fallen into apostasy, and thus, have lost their salvation in Christ:

Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit…they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

(Jude excerpt, NKJV)



Within the Bible there is a doctrine found that is often MISLEADINGLY called “once saved always saved,” but is more properly called the “Doctrine of Eternal Security.” That teaching is biblical—BUT NOT as it is often taught today.

This important doctrine of Scripture simply asserts that if you are truly a born again believer in Christ, then you cannot “accidentally” lose your salvation, e.g. by a single act of sin. It is intended to provide comfort to those who sincerely love Christ and have faith in Him, but who are also (understandably) VERY aware of their own shortcomings and limitations.

As we “practice righteousness” we are going to make mistakes, just as one “practicing” an instrument (particularly a novice) will sometimes hit a wrong note. Such an incident—most especially for immature believers—will not “damn” a person, for these are typically minor mistakes. (However, serious and/or habitual sin indicates that they were likely never born again in the first place, as Titus 2:11-14 reveals, and as 1 John, chapter three, further explains quite clearly). Thus, the Lord comforts believers within the New Testament that they have “eternal security” in Him, and that even the devil himself is unable to “snatch” them out of His hand (e.g. John 10:28-29)—so long as they “remain in Him” willfully.

Note for example:

And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.

(Colossians 1:21-23, NKJV, emphasis mine)

And now, little children, abide (live, remain permanently) in Him, so that when He is made visible, we may have and enjoy perfect confidence (boldness, assurance) and not be ashamed and shrink from Him at His coming….

No one who abides in Him [who lives and remains in communion with and in obedience to Him–deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] commits (practices) sin. No one who [habitually] sins has either seen or known Him [recognized, perceived, or understood Him, or has had an experiential acquaintance with Him].

(1 John 2:28 and 3:6, Amplified Bible)

Consequently, the biblical form of the “Doctrine of Eternal Security” was NEVER intended by God to imply that one could not walk away from Christ through apostasy, and thus, abandon His salvation. Such an idea was certainly NOT the doctrine of the apostles, as I have revealed already in the passages I quoted above. However, to ensure that no question is left in the minds of any, consider this passage too:

For I fear lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I wish, and that I shall be found by you such as you do not wish…lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness which they have practiced….Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.

(Excerpt from 2 Corinthians 12:19-13:5, NKJV)

Paul obviously knew that men and women could walk away from Christ. Thus, in Hebrews is says quite frankly:

For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”

(Hebrews 10:26-20, NKJV)

Is all hope lost regarding those who have sinned and walked away from Christ? Yes, in some cases; but thankfully, NO in others:

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame….

But, beloved, we are confident of better things concerning you, yes, things that accompany salvation, though we speak in this manner.

(Hebrews 6:4-12 excerpt, NKJV)

Obviously, we are hopeful that—at least with some members of the Copeland family and KCM/EMIC leadership, as well as among their followers—there is still hope that they may YET be saved. In fact, that is the PURPOSE of this website, i.e. to seek and save those we believe to be presently lost.

Nevertheless, this important theological discussion would require too much space to elaborate upon more than I have already. Since we need to move on with the subject at hand, let’s now look briefly at how to “spot” the wolves and unsaved people in the midst of the church, and then turn to consider if the Copeland family is truly saved or not, thereafter…


Biblical Tests of Faith

The question of how to “test” ourselves and others in regards to the genuineness of their faith in Christ, and true motives, is also found in the “wolf” analogy when Jesus stated, “You will know them by their fruits.” Or has John the apostle explained it quite clearly:

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.

(1 John 3:4-10, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Notice that in discussing those who are SHOCKED to discover that they were never saved that Jesus said, “Depart from me you who practice lawlessness.” Here, John says that “sin is lawlessness” and that those who PRACTICE sin habitually are those who have never been born again. Logically, we can extend this description to those who are “twice dead” as well, as such people ONCE AGAIN take on the character of those who have never been born again in the first place (see 2 Peter 2:20-22).

Let me note here again that what the Bible is describing within the passage above the DIFFERENCE between habitually “practicing” sin or righteousness. Any genuine Christian can “fall” into sin, but according to the Scripture they will get back up (through repentance) and begin “practicing” righteousness once again. On the other hand, any sinner can commit a “good deed” and even act religious (do you remember those who will be frantically trying to convince the Lord Jesus that they are saved from the Matthew seven passage?). The Scriptures are not talking about isolated “acts” of good or bad here, but HABITUAL behavior (especially when others are not looking).

What one does habitually reveals their true nature: Those who “practice sin are of the devil.” On the other hand, those who are habitually “practicing righteousness” are “born of God” and are currently still living for Him. Or as Jesus stated it quite simply:

You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

(Matthew 7:16-20, NKJV)

So what can we learn about the Copeland family in regards to their “deeds” or “fruit”? Can we determine whether they are “practicing righteousness” or if they have been “practicing sin” instead? After a brief introduction to that topic, that is exactly where we will now turn our attention…


Covetous Idolatry

As the above discourse has revealed already, “wolves in sheep’s clothing” are covetous (greedy) people who prey upon others for their own selfish gain. From this fact, however, comes the very point of the concern that we—along with many of our advocates—have in regard to the Copeland family. Please note the following passages:

But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them.

(Ephesians 5:3-7, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10, NKJV, emphasis mine)

According to the BIBLE: Those who are covetous (i.e. greedy, materialistic, rapacious, avaricious, etc.) are actually “idolaters.” In other words…they might SAY that they worship the God of the Bible, but they really worship “Mammon,” the Babylonian idol “god” of material wealth:

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Mammon.

(Matthew 6:24, NKJV, emphasis added)

He also said to His disciples…”No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Mammon.”

Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, also heard all these things, and they derided Him. And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

(An excerpt from Luke 16:1-15, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Oh, look at what the Lord Jesus has said! In both the Matthew and Luke accounts, He is recorded teaching the very same principle. The KJV translation uses “covetous” instead of “lovers of money” for the Luke passage above, so Jesus is clearly talking about the SAME “greed equals idolatry” point that the Ephesians and 1 Corinthians passages were also discussing above!

However in these passages, Jesus has revealed that even the MOST OUTWARDLY religious people of that day were in fact INWARDLY “ravenous wolves” in their hearts! The eyes of God certainly see the genuine condition of the heart—and people are often quick to say “only God know a person’s heart.” However, that is NOT a biblical statement! The Bible teaches that the the condition of the heart is also often MANIFEST through a person’s behavior. By their manifest “deeds” we can “judge the tree by its fruit” and know what kind of person we are really dealing with:

He went on: “What comes out of a man is what makes him “unclean.” For from within, out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.

(Mark 7:20-22, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

(Matthew 7:15-20, NKJV, emphasis mine)

So can we identify ANY evidence or “fruit” that the Copeland family are actually habitually practicing covetousness (greed) in their lives?

If we can identify such bad “fruit,” then (in the light of the points which we have already examined from the Scriptures above) we know biblically that the following two things MUST also be true about them:

  1. That they are NOT going to “inherit the kingdom of God,” and thus, they are not presently saved.
  2. That they are actually “wolves in sheep’s clothing,” and thus, they are not presently saved.

Thus, if we can determine that the Copeland family have a “lifestyle” of covetous practices, then we can easily “know them by their fruits,” and identify whether they are truly our siblings in Christ…or false ministers, leading others astray for their own self-serving purposes.


Grassley’s Findings

Within our article, Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” Lies Again! (click here to view in another window), we explained that the ONGOING Senate Finance Committee’s probe of the televangelists (which includes KCM) found some VERY disturbing behavior patterns among these alleged “ministries.” In the case of the Copelands, here are only a few that were discovered:

In its response to the Committee, the Church acknowledged that it provides a parsonage to Kenneth and Gloria and a housing allowance to John but did not provide any further detail. However, insiders and the Trinity Foundation state that Kenneth and Gloria reside in a house in Tarrant County, Texas.

A review of the Tarrant County Appraisal District records indicates the following. An 18,280 square foot residence [which actually has a total of 25,000 sq. ft. under roof, according to my ministry sources] owned by EMIC was built in 1999. The house is situated on a lake on approximately 25 acres and receives tax-exempt status. As of tax year 2008, the property was valued at $6,249,000.

(Page 9, bracketed notes mine)

A draft letter dated in 2004 from to Kenneth and Gloria Copeland from their former attorney Dennis Brewer was included in the Trinity Foundation Religious Conversion report that was provided to the Committee. In the letter, Brewer expresses concern that KCM‟s compensation committee is made up of Board Members who make recommendations to themselves. He acknowledges that there is a “loophole” in the law that permits it but if “an IRS agent was doing an examination it would raise a large severe red flag.” The letter goes on to state that “KCM has taken great precautions to not have the necessity to file 990s and to keep compensation issues confidential so why take an unnecessary chance?” The inference can be made that the Church, at least prior to 2004, did not have a truly independent compensation committee independent of Kenneth Copeland‟s influence, his family and close friends.

(Page 11)

A former ministry employee stated Gloria Copeland used a jet to fly to Naples, Florida, to go shopping. She would purchase clothing, sculptures and home furnishings. John Copeland and ministry employees, Craig Atnip, Steve Poteet and some others used a jet to take hunting trips. Kenneth Copeland used to travel back and forth to Arkansas to see a chiropractor and to visit his cabin there. The Copeland family also flew to Colorado to their home in Steamboat Springs from time to time.

(Page 19)

And under “Possible Conversion of Other Assets”:

On the August 4, 2006, broadcast of Copeland‟s Believer‟s Voice of Victory, Copeland acknowledges that he has no utility bills and that he has his own electrical power plant that runs on the gas that comes from his own ground and that he owns water wells, a purification plant, and a sewage plant, all located on his [i.e. not the church’s] property. Copeland goes on to say that if no money came into the ministry, he would not be in need because he has no debt. Since Copeland resides on land that belongs to EMIC/KCM, it is difficult to understand his claim that all of these debt-free assets belong to him and not the Church.

(pages 20-21, emphasis and notes in brackets mine)


Gloria’s Contract

A citation from the Senate committee’s investigation which I did not previously include within the article above, is in regard to Gloria Copeland’s opulent employment contract. Can we see any evidence of “greed” (covetousness) within these details? Notice:

The Church did not provide the Committee with a copy of the employment agreements between the Copelands and EMIC. However, an employment agreement prepared for Gloria Copeland and EMIC was included in the Religious Conversion report provided to the Committee by Trinity Foundation. Under this agreement, “Eagle Mountain International Church, Inc., a Texas corporation doing business as Kenneth Copeland Ministries” would:

  • Employ Gloria Copeland for a period of twenty years beginning January 1, 2002 to December 31, 2021.
  • Give Gloria an option to extend the contract for an additional 10 years following the initial 20 years.
  • Permit Gloria to be a paid consultant once she retired.
  • Permit Gloria to retain the title and duties of Executive Vice President as long as she desires.
  • Permit Gloria to secure any personnel needed to fulfill her responsibilities at the expense of EMIC
  • Agree that Gloria‟s “works of authorship” such as sermons, books, pamphlets, lectures, articles and speeches created prior to and during the term of the employment agreement belong to Gloria.
  • Require EMIC to pay Gloria an annual salary that is comparable to the compensation of other ministers, secular executives, performers and personalities whose ministries and/or businesses and/or professional activities and production are of similar scope. The amount of the salary shall be determined annually by the Independent Compensation subcommittee of the Board of EMIC.

Did you catch that? Gloria’s contract requires the “church” of EMIC (aka, Eagle Mountain International “Church”) to pay her a salary COMPARABLE to “secular executives, performers, and personalities” who are of a “similar scope.” In other words—big money. For what? Being a preacher? Where is THAT in the New Testament? (And I have been told by more than one of our “whistle blowers” that both Gloria and Kenneth are paid via comfortable seven-figure compensation packages—or, rather, they were…at least until Kenneth Copeland’s financial “Titanic” began to sink faster.)

  • Permit Gloria to, at her sole discretion, to defer or otherwise direct all or any part of her compensation to take advantage of any tax benefits.
  • Entitle Gloria to eight weeks of paid vacation, which can be accrued and added to in subsequent years. Gloria can also receive cash payment in an amount equal to the amount of her annual salary attributable to that time.
  • Require EMIC to honor any reasonable sabbatical request made by Gloria.
  • Require EMIC provide to Copeland with the use of an automobile of Gloria‟s selection including make, model and options and be responsible for all operating expenses including fuel.
  • Require EMIC to procure and maintain an automobile insurance policy including full coverage, with coverage including Gloria, with policy limits in the amount of at least one million dollars for bodily injury or death to any person and any one accident.

Now we learn that Gloria’s contract requires the “church” of EMIC to not only buy her the car “of her choice,” but ALSO to pay for ALL maintenance, for some VERY expensive high-liability insurance—and even ALL FUEL that she burns in it!

Now back when we were still allowed to “hang out” with Kenneth, he drove up one day in Gloria’s car “of choice.” It was a very large pearl-white Cadillac (I do not know which model, because I do not pay attention to such things…but you cannot miss the big Cadillac symbol on the front of the car!). So in case you were wondering, it would seem that “Hyundai” and “Chevy” manufacture types of cars are not typically found on the list of “her choice.”

  • Require EMIC to pay Gloria an annual ministerial housing allowance to be determined by the Independent Compensation Committee or provide Gloria with a parsonage.
  • Require EMIC to pay business expenses “reasonably incurred” by Gloria in promoting the business of EMIC, including expenditures for entertainment, gifts, and travel. EMIC is to provide Gloria with a credit card for these expenditures.
  • Require EMIC to continue to pay Gloria under the terms of the agreement unless she is unable to perform 51% of her duties for 12 consecutive months. If this happens EMIC, if it elects, may reduce her salary in an amount not more than 49% of the salary in effect.

(Pages 21-22, emphasis mine)

That last one is a “kicker,” is it not? Gloria’s contract requires EMIC “church” to pay her all these things and provide all these compensation benefits, EVEN if she is NOT doing anything up to 50% of the time! If she is not doing at least something for at least 50% of the year, then “if it elects,” EMIC “may reduce her salary by an amount not more than 49% of the salary in effect.” However, we learned further above that the church is run by the family members and that there is NO truly independent board making those decisions!

So what are the chances that she would take a pay cut even if she took the whole year off and did nothing at all?

Again, there is a LOT more details listed in Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” Lies Again!, and you can download the ACTUAL Senate documents to read for yourself from links on that page. While you are there, and as you ponder what is already included above, please ask yourself if these behaviors are the conduct of one who follows the biblical pattern for ministry:

If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

(1 Timothy 6:3-7, NKJV, emphasis mine)


The “Inside Edition”

Oh, but it is one thing to read about the opulence that Kenneth and Gloria have surrounded themselves with—paid for by “the ministry” through the donations of gullible people (like we used to be)— and another thing entirely to see it for yourself! So the following Inside Edition investigative report will give you a look into the lavish lifestyles of the Copelands, AND will provide you a glimpse into how Copeland tries to “defend” these things in the face of a very direct question asked by the reporter. Just click on the picture to begin the video:

Kenneth Copeland, investigated on CBS's Inside Edition (click this image in order to play the video)

Kenneth Copeland, investigated on Inside Edition (please click on the above image in order to play the video)

One of the most interesting things Copeland did within the above video was get caught lying to the reporter toward the end of the news report. The video shows Kenneth declaring to her that, “we are open…” (i.e. transparent, honest, have nothing to hide, etc.). But when the reporter asks two legitimate and sincere questions, “Why do you need a fleet of jets [when] you are a minister?” and “How many jets do you have?” Kenneth demonstrates how “open” he really is by barking back, “That is NONE of your business!” and then stormed off in a rage.

In the face of such behavior, please not what Jesus said:

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.

(John 3:19-21, NKJV, emphasis mine)

To which we must add the words of Paul by the Spirit when he wrote, “Provide things honest in the sight of all men” (Romans 12:17). So if Kenneth Copeland is truly “open” and not hiding anything, then why did he storm off without answering her questions? Moreover, why did he lie to her and tell her that they are “open” when the evidence clearly indicates otherwise?


Jetting Around on Donor Dimes

As intriguing as the Inside Edition investigative report above may be, it is not the first such report done on the Copelands. The following local report from Dallas Texas’ “News 8” investigative reporter, Brett Shipp, was the VERY one that resulted in the Copelands being included within the Senate Finance Committee’s ongoing investigation:

WFAA News 8 Investigates Kenneth Copeland's Jet

WFAA News 8’s first report on the Copelands’ lavish lifestyles (ostensibly, at donor’s expense). Please click the image above to begin playing the video.

Did you note that when Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” was asked simply to provide some basic documentation to demonstrate their financial integrity, they “declined” to provide such data? Again, does that seem to be compatible with Paul’s exhortation by the Spirit, “Provide things honest in the sight of all men”?

Even when the Senate Finance Committee began to ask questions, the behavior from the Copelands was similarly uncooperative. As was noted by Deborah Norville within the Inside Edition report further above, Copeland claims to have “cooperated” with that investigation, but the SFC investigators said that was UNTRUE (i.e. a lie). This is itself a VERY troubling thing indeed, because the Bible says THIS about “all liars” and their eternal destiny:

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

(Revelation 21:8, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Regardless of whatever the Copelands are hiding, the fact that they are VERY WILLING to lie about it is itself proof-positive that their hearts are NOT right before God.

Moving on to examine additional evidence about their spiritual condition, however, let us now consider this following video. This is the WFAA report that aired the day that the SFC publicly announced their still-ongoing investigation:

WFAA News 8 Reports on the Sentate Finance Committee's Investigation of Televangelists

WFAA News 8’s second report, regarding the SFC investigation announced that very day. Please click on the above image to begin playing the video.

Consider now this third investigative report, which was apparently the first time that a reporter caught Copeland backstage for a surprise interview on-camera. Please note how Copeland began “all smiles,” but soon became quite uncooperative when legitimate questions were asked of him—just like he did in the Inside Edition report further above. This investigative report also includes other “whistle blowers”—former employees who explain how shockingly different the REAL Copelands are behind the scenes, in contrast with the “public” image that they portray to the TV audience:

WFAA News 8 Investigates the REAL Copelands and Interviews Former Employees

WFAA News 8’s third report the following day, with former employees revealing what really goes on at KCM. Please click on the above image to begin playing the video

It is also very interesting to note the voice of the announcer at the start of the third WFAA video above. Those of us who watched the BVOV television show back during the 1990s will quickly recognize that it as the same person who USED to donate FREE voice-over services to KCM back then. So why did he stop donating those services? And why is he now assisting in a news report investigation ABOUT the Copelands?


Lacking Biblical Accountability

One of the things that stands out the most from the above news reports and the Copelands’ complete REFUSAL to cooperate with the Senate Finance Committee’s investigation (to include their lie to Inside Edition that they had cooperated) is how the Copelands go to great lengths to hide their accounting books and documentation. In the light of the Scriptures we have cited above (and many more that could be cited), this ultra-secrecy is certainly unbiblical. It is also VERY troubling, because Jesus said quite clearly in the John chapter three quote above that those who refuse to come to the light, do so because they are hiding “evil” out of concern that “their deeds will be exposed.”

Of course, in the light of this fact, several additional points should be made along these same lines:

In contrast, however, Joyce Meyer did seek and obtain such ECFA accreditation after reports of her previous financial improprieties began to be reported in the media. (Also click here to see the actual ECFA report for JMM.) She and her husband, Dave, have also made an effort to obtain at least a moderate “financial transparency grade” of “C” with If Dave and Joyce Meyer had the simple decency to get their financial affairs—and reporting!—cleaned up, why does Copeland NOT think that is a good idea too?

(Note: Please do not consider the above comments about Dave and Joyce Meyer to be any kind of endorsement of their “ministry” by either Donna or me, or our many advocates. Rather, let me here express our concerns about her “all seeing eye” teaching—which is actually Masonic doctrine. In the light of Scripture, Freemasonry is NOT compatible with biblical Christianity at all—DESPITE their claims otherwise. Thus, the fact that Joyce has included such blasphemous doctrine within her public “ministry” has both Donna and me VERY concerned about Dave’s and Joyce’s spiritual lives too. In short, this one fact alone gives us plenty of biblical reason to also doubt the current state of their salvation.)

Again, according to Jesus within the Gospel of John passage quoted further above, these apparent efforts made by the Copelands to HIDE the financial practices of KCM would seem to indicate VERY clearly that “they hate the light” because they are actually “practicing evil” and do not want “their deeds exposed.”


Some Objections Addressed

Having formerly been “partners” with KCM for about seventeen years, Donna and I know the mentality that is so pervasive within those circles. Those who may have watched the above videos, and read the above report findings from the SFC investigation, may have some automatic “objections” pop into their minds due to the subtle programming that takes place via KCM/EMIC indoctrination.

Once a person comes out from under that witchcraft-like “spell,” of course, they quickly begin to wake up to the realities of the facts in the light of Scripture (and even just good common sense). However, for the benefit of those still “drinking” the Copelands’ poisonous false doctrine, I will quickly address a few of the common objections that are likely to arise:

  • Objection First: “Yes, the Copelands are wealthy, but that is because they are ‘givers’ and God has blessed them with ‘harvests’ on their giving!” Response: Actually, there is absolutely no evidence of any such thing, beyond the claims of the Copeland family themselves, and their followers. The bulk of the evidence CLEARLY reveals that the Copelands’ wealth has come primarily via donations to KCM and product sales (which products also typically TEACH people to donate money), which then fuel their exorbitant salaries and many tax-free “perks” and benefits.
  • Objection Second: “Oh, but the Copeland family is of the highest integrity! Their ‘word’ is good, and they can be trusted that what they say is true.” Response: We used to believe that lie too. But as the numerous well-documented posts within the section on the Table of Contents page of this website entitled “The Mysterious Disappearance of Angel Flight 44” reveal, we found out the “hard way” that this was simply untrue. In our experience, they not only LIED repeatedly about several things, but also perpetuated what we believe to be a $2-4 million fraud using our book “Angel Flight 44” and our good names. Within this article you are now reading, in fact, we have already cited several instances of the Copelands lying about their “openness” and other things. Then there are the two posts Kenneth Copeland’s “Bad Confession” and Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” Lies Again, which each reveal several other documentable lies told by this family and KCM executives. So this common objection is pure nonsense, because there is overwhelming evidence that suggests that the Copeland family lies habituallyespecially when they think it will give them some advantage.
  • Objection Third: “Oh, but people who work for the Copelands say that they are honest, and even other ministers do too!” Response: People who work for the Copelands have a VERY vested interest to keep their employer happy (and ex-employees commonly have a different story to tell anyway). Further, “birds of a feather flock together” as the old English proverb says. Thus, the “other ministers” that claim integrity for the Copelands are merely other “wolves in sheep’s clothing” typically (or other people who have believed the lie that was told them, like we once did). They ALSO have a vested interest in keeping the Copelands happy and to cover their “wolf tracks,” for the Copelands do the same for them in return. This is simply a case of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” in most instances. The fact that many of these “other ministers” have been exposed as frauds themselves, and/or are being investigated for improprieties, is further evidence that THEIR “integrity” in claiming “integrity” for the Copelands cannot be trusted.

There are other “objections” too, of course, but the three addressed above should prove sufficient to make the point that one should look at the EVIDENCE in the light of SCRIPTURE, and not merely “swallow” the propaganda that is fed to them by the Copelands, et al. Since Jesus said that “wolves” like to wear “sheep’s clothing,” it should be no surprise that they use such untrue rhetoric to hide their actual nature, and to “front” the mere appearance that they are a genuine “ministry.”


Of Our Findings

At this point, it is important to summarize what we have found to be FACTUAL to date in regard to the Copeland family and their alleged “ministry” known as KCM:

  1. That they live very lavishly, with opulent lifestyles that are funded NOT by legitimate business ventures and/or investments (which would be both biblical AND openly explainable), but rather by donations—and product sales of materials that often encourage donations. These funding sources then work together to fuel exorbitant salaries and other forms of “compensation.”
  2. That the Copelands go to great lengths to HIDE their financial records from ANY legitimate scrutiny, and thus, endeavor to maintain a very obvious level of SECRECY surrounding their actual activities.
  3. That the Copelands have a documentable history of probable fraud and deceit.

In contrast with the above, we found within the Scriptures these eternal truths that shed much light on the above facts:

  • That “wolves in sheep’s clothing” are “inwardly” frauds and thieves, and will “plunder” others in order to satisfy their instinctive cravings for self-gratification—and thus, are NOT saved.
  • That such covetous people are idolaters—and will NOT inherit salvation.
  • That “false brethren” and “false teachers” work in secrecy, as do all those who “practice evil”; and thus, that such people were either never born again in the first place, or are “twice dead” apostates who have walked away from the genuine faith in Christ to pursue their own lusts and greed.
  • That “all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”


Regarding Our Conclusions

In the face of the data that I have provided above…could it be that we can reasonably conclude that the Copeland family is at least covetous? And if we can, then what does that indicate?

We have found out from the Bible already that two things MUST be true, according to God’s Word, if the Copelands are at least covetous:

  1. That they are NOT going to “inherit the kingdom of God,” and thus, they are not presently saved (see Ephesians 5:5 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, and the many other Scriptures provided above within this article).
  2. That they are actually “wolves in sheep’s clothing,” and thus, they are not presently saved (see Matthew 7:13-23; 2 Peter chapters 2-3; the entire epistle of Jude; plus the many other Scriptures provided above within this article).

If merely being COVETOUS is enough to damn them for all of eternity, then what can we say about all the evidence that suggests strongly that they are habitual liars and probable frauds?

So let me be clear what Donna and I, and many of our advocates, have concluded in the light of Scripture and the abundant evidence: It is our our informed conclusion that Kenneth and Gloria Copeland (and much of their family) are NOT saved! It is our sincere theological opinion that if they were to die right now, they would miss Heaven and spend their time in Hell (Hades) awaiting the terrifying final judgment found in Revelation chapter twenty:

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

(Revelation 20:11-15, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Please note: THIS IS NO SMALL MATTER! These are SERIOUS issues that ANY genuine Christian SHOULD be concerned about!

It should now be VERY clear why we here at are NOT going to quit our efforts to call on Kenneth Copeland, his family, all the people at his alleged “ministry”…plus his “wolfish” buddies…to repent and get saved.


Irrefutable Logic

The biblical exegesis above is sound, and the facts regarding the Copelands are clear. So we can summarize all of the above with a very simple syllogism, which summarizes this entire article nicely:

Major Premise: The Bible says that all habitually covetous people are unsaved idolaters, who will NOT inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

Minor Premise: The overwhelming evidence indicates that the Copelands have practiced covetous for many years.

Conclusion: Therefore, the Copelands are unsaved idolaters, who will NOT inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

This chain of biblical reasoning is irrefutable. This word “irrefutable” is derived from the Latin term, “irrefutabilis,” which is itself formed from two Latin root words: The Latin prefix “in,” which means “without,” and “refutare” which means “to suppress or conquer,” and from which we get the English word “refute.” This is itself derived from the Latin prefix “re” (i.e. to “do again”) and “futare,” which means simply “to defeat.” So in essence, when “refuting” an argument, one is “defeating it again and again” at its points of weakness (e.g. factual shortcomings, logical fallacies, etc.). Thereby, the person “suppresses” or “conquers” that faulty argument through the logical application of both reason and facts (which includes in our case, correct biblical exegesis). Thus, an “irrefutable” argument is one that cannot be suppressed, conquered or repeatedly defeated at various points, because it is a solid argument without significant flaws.

(For a related note: Minor flaws within a well-argued complex treatise, such as I have presented here, cannot be the basis for a refutation, because such minor points are unable to form the basis for a “repeated defeat” that would suppress the overall point being made. Small valid points of disagreement merely demonstrate that fine tuning within the original polysyllogism is necessary. Invalid points offered in rebuttal, however, actually reinforce the original point being made.)

There is no rational biblical exegesis that can honestly conclude any premise other than the “major premise” given above. (Heresies and logical fallacies? Yes. Rational biblical exegesis? No.) There is also no rational examination of the facts surrounding the Copelands that can conclude anything other than they are very covetous people. These people (and many of their followers) think CONSTANTLY of earthly things—and they even talk about them insistently, to include their constant referrals to the alleged “blessing” that they believe will bring them even more earthly treasure.

Consequently, it is very clear that the Copelands (and their followers) have been habitually living without due regard for what the eternal consequences might be for their earthly cravings; and the Bible’s promises are NOT favorable toward such idolatrous people:

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience

(Colossians 3:1-6, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Again, there is absolutely no rational argument that can undermine the above syllogism. It is irrefutable logic, based upon God’s irrefutable and eternal Word.

Now, please notice that I did NOT say that the above argument is “indisputable” or “undeniable.” The reason for this is that I have long discovered through God’s Word and confirmatory experience, that there are “fools” who will dispute anything, and thus, there is really no such thing as an “indisputable” argument (e.g. see Proverbs 18:2). I have also learned that there is really no such thing as an “undeniable” argument, because anyone with an ulterior motive will deny any argument that conflicts with their chosen self-serving agenda:

Now go, write it before them on a tablet, and note it on a scroll, that it may be for time to come, forever and ever:

That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children who will not hear the law of the Lord; Who say to the seers, “Do not see,” and to the prophets, “Do not prophesy to us right things; speak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits. Get out of the way, turn aside from the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.”

Therefore thus says the Holy One of Israel:

“Because you despise this word, and trust in oppression and perversity, and rely on them, therefore this iniquity shall be to you like a breach ready to fall, a bulge in a high wall, whose breaking comes suddenly, in an instant. And He shall break it like the breaking of the potter’s vessel, which is broken in pieces; He shall not spare. So there shall not be found among its fragments a shard to take fire from the hearth, or to take water from the cistern.”

For thus says the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel:

“In returning and rest you shall be saved; In quietness and confidence shall be your strength.” But you would not.

(Isaiah 30:8-15, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Although their sinful folly is certainly to their hurt and disadvantage, and although through repentance they can be saved and find quiet “rest” and blessing…they “would not.” They refused God’s written Word as well as the spoken word given by righteous men and women of God, who endeavored to warn them to turn away from their self-destructive and damnable behavior.

So again: This article as a whole, summarized within the above logic syllogism, is NOT indisputable or undeniable, for surely there are fools with debased agendas who will both dispute and deny every point contained herein. However, this article’s biblical exegesis and examination of the facts related to the Copelands, form an irrefutable argument (i.e. one that is unable to be defeated by reason or facts), whereby our concern regarding the eternal welfare of the souls of both the Copelands and their followers is PROVEN to be very justified by both facts and Scripture.

In short, the evidence is overwhelming that the Copelands (and their followers) need to simply repent. The Scriptures are clear regarding such matters. For example, consider these statements regarding the ministry of Paul:

To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

(Titus 1:15-16, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.

(Acts 26:19-20, NKJV, emphasis mine)

…I kept back nothing that was helpful, but proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house, testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

(Acts 20:20-21, NKJV, emphasis mine)

To the Copelands and their followers: As the Lord said within the Isaiah passage above, “In returning and rest you shall be saved.” Do not “deny,” “dispute,” or delay!!! Simply repent NOW of your covetous idolatry and many OTHER sins (lying, heresy, Masonic oaths, etc.), and put your faith in the Jesus of the Bible today as the sole source of your salvation and righteousness. Neither “lamb skin aprons” nor “self-righteous justification” will do you ANY good on the Day of Judgment. Please repent NOW.


Probable “Rebuttal” Fallacies

We have been doing this BIBLICAL public rebuke project since 2008, and consequently, have become quite familiar with the tactics of wolves trying to keep the attention OFF of them. So I thought it would be good to quickly refute (defeat) a few of their alleged “rebuttals” here before the “Copelandites” (that is, the most hard-core followers of Kenneth Copeland) bother wasting their time trying to contact us:

Begging the Question:

The first and most common “rebuttal” used by the Copelands regarding their detractors is that they are simply “jealous of their blessing.” The ASSUME that the reason why people comment so much on their wealth is because those people are just as covetous as THEY are, and therefore, that they are “jealous.” However, most people actually focus on that aspect because it is the clearest evidence of the Copelands’ GREED. The people of whom I am aware are not “desiring” what the Copelands have, but rather are DISGUSTED that they have obtained such things by exploiting people through false religion. They are outraged that the Copelands have caused blasphemy to the “Way of Truth” because of their behavior:

And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

(2 Peter 2:2-3, NKJV, emphasis mine)

This type of erroneous reading exhibited by the Copelands (and their followers) is called the fallacy of “Begging the Question.” Therein, they first ASSUME something as factual without sufficient grounds (evidence) to do so, and then use that as the foundation upon which they then argue the very same point that they have just asserted. This is why this fallacy is also called “Circular Reasoning,” because their “proof” is actually the very assumption that has YET to be proven!

So let us now examine this question which is so often “begged” by the Copelands and their followers: Are Donna and I calling them to repentance merely because we are “jealous” of their material opulence, which they seemed to have acquired through fraud and deceit? We can answer that question by first looking at where the Bible says such people as the Copelands will spend eternity, if they fail to repent beforehand:

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

(Revelation 21:8, NKJV, emphasis mine)

For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

(Ephesians 5:5, NKJV, emphasis mine)

So according to the Scriptures, such lying and idolatrous people are damning themselves through their greed, as they “covet” money and the things that it can buy. The Copelands’ earthly state may seem “comfortable” now, but their eternal state will be terrifying and horrific! So are either Donna or I “jealous” of them? Nope. Note one bit. We PITY them instead, which is OBVIOUSLY why we are calling on them to repent…before they end up paying for all eternity for a brief lifetime of greed.

Ad Hominem:

This term has a fancy Latin name which means simply “at the man.” It refers to ANY instance in which an argument is directed at the PERSON instead of simply in rebuttal to their own points. This is often a VERY justifiable thing to do, however, and does not necessarily constitute a fallacy when the following two conditions are met:

  1. The “ad hominem” is factually true, or reasonably believed to be true because of sufficient evidence at hand.
  2. The “ad hominem” is relevant to the discussion, and thus, DOES serve to refute the opponent’s argument to some degree.

An example of a warranted ad hominem might be when a person is pointing out that they do not believe the argument of the other party because they have a history of LYING to people (perhaps even to them). Obviously, that would be warranted by both the historical facts, as well as its relevant bearing upon that person’s ability to accept the points being made by the other party.

(Note: Generally, even the use of warranted ad hominem is not sufficient to refute an argument by itself. Using our previous example again, even a liar can tell the truth once in a while, and thus, this warranted ad hominem serves merely as one point of rational argumentation, but not as a full refutation of the other party’s stated position. So additional reasoning is necessary in order to show that the other party’s stated position is either factually untrue or logically flawed, in order to fully refute it.)

Likewise, this particular article (and this website in general) contains WARRANTED ad hominem content (i.e. points that are “at the man,” or refer to the Copelands personally). We are simply presenting evidence here on that demonstrates that the Copelands have sinned in various ways (e.g. lying, heresy, probable fraud, covetousness, etc.). This evidence is, of course, extremely relevant to our stated objective, as we call on them to repent and get saved. So while the fact that we use warranted ad hominem when we call them “wolves in sheep’s clothing” may seem offensive (especially to them and their followers), it is NOT fallacious to do so, because we have ample biblical and factual reasons why we apply that label to them. Since Jesus gave us that phrase, it is also quite biblical and proper to apply it when it is warranted, and thus, we do.

On the other hand, the Copelands’ use of terms like “jealous” and “heretic hunters” and other such terms, is clearly fallacious. They use such “ad hominem attacks” merely to get the “spotlight” off of themselves, and to attempt to discredit those people who simply want them to cease their sin and to turn towards righteousness. This is because their use of ad hominem is without factual substantiation to support their accusations, and in many instances the accusations also lack relevance to the points being made.

Thus, we are not moved by such false rhetoric whenever it is aimed at us. In fact, sometimes we are quite amused by it! Whenever people resort to fallacious ad hominem, it is equivalent to a little kid taunting another with abusive names at the playground. People resort to such childish tactics because they simply CANNOT form a rational rebuttal! So whenever one does display such desperate immaturity, we know instantly that we have won the entire debate because all they have left to “throw at us” are mere insults. 😉

The Genetic Fallacy:

This third fallacy is an interesting form of irrational thinking, wherein a person simply rejects an argument made by another ONLY because of its source (hence, the word “genetic” which is derived from the word “Genesis” which means simply, “beginning,” i.e. “source”).

In other words, if a person says, “That can’t be true because a woman said it,” then they have just demonstrated the “genetic fallacy” by refusing the statement fallaciously because of it source. Obviously, this is an absurd way to think! Would the gender of a person necessarily indicate that their argument is untrue? How ridiculous! Yet, people do that all the time. Bigots refuse the arguments presented by people of another race. Religious people might refuse a given doctrine, simply because it is believed by another group that they are predisposed to oppose. In other words, the MERIT of the argument is not even examined, because it has been rejected outright by the person simply because of who it came from.

This happens all the time with the Copelands and their followers, as well. Simply because a given argument about the sins of the Copelands comes from a “critic” (a term that is often used by them derisively as a fallacious ad hominem also), they too often fail to examine the merits of what is being said. To their own hurt and eventual shame, they reject the truth simply because they don’t like its source. However, given all the well-documented points made herein in regards to both the Bible’s precepts and the factual evidence surrounding the behavior of the Copelands, such irrational rejection of our plea for repentance can ONLY be ignored at their own peril:

Wisdom calls aloud outside; She raises her voice in the open squares. She cries out in the chief concourses, at the openings of the gates in the city she speaks her words:

“How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? For scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge. Turn at my rebuke; Surely I will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you.

“Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded, Because you disdained all my counsel, and would have none of my rebuke, I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, When your terror comes like a storm, and your destruction comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you.”

Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me. Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord, they would have none of my counsel and despised my every rebuke.

Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, and be filled to the full with their own fancies. For the turning away of the simple will slay them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them; But whoever listens to me will dwell safely, and will be secure, without fear of evil.”

(Proverbs 1:20-33, NKJV)

For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

(verses 32-33 restated from the King James Version, emphasis mine)

As can probably be imagined from this sample list given above, there are also other fallacies common among the “Copelandites” (a term which I coined to refer inclusively to the Copeland family and their most ardent followers…which is a warranted ad hominem, of course). However, these three will suffice for now. We need to draw this article to a close, as I have already stated herein a solid and irrefutable case as to why we call on them all to repent and get saved (whether again or for the first time)—which salvation is proven by living a life that gives evidence that they are ready to meet their Maker on the Day of Judgement.

…I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.

(From Acts 26:20, NIV 1984 edition)

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

(Titus 2:11-14, NKJV, emphasis mine)


The Unanswered Question

By the time a person has reached this point within this article, they are likely to be wondering, “Was Kenneth Copeland and his family EVER saved?” That is a very valid question, but one which we will NOT attempt to answer within this particular article.

Our focus herein is simply the FACT that the biblical and factual evidence attests that they are unsaved NOW and need to get right with God. Their history is to us, as this point, irrelevant to this primary redemptive focus. Moreover, to “make a case” one way or the other in regard to that question would necessarily require another article entirely in order to provide enough evidence to substantiate our beliefs in the matter.

However, let me state clearly that we DO intend to address that question within future writings.

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Closing Remarks and Benediction

Donna and I would like to ask our many advocates of this redemptive project to continue to pray for the Copeland family and their followers, because we believe the time is short before an earthly judgment (e.g. Senator Grassley’s probe, or some God-sent disaster or sickness) is brought to bear against them by the Lord:

And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write,

“These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass…Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.”

(An excerpt from Revelation 2:18-29, NKJV, emphasis mine)

The Copelands have been playing games with God and His Word for many years, and the patience of the Lord has been astounding in the face of their blasphemy. Furthermore, they were rebuked by many preachers through the years, some of which confrontations came directly to them (and I may document the history of such confrontations in a future article). Yet, they repeatedly failed to repent of their ways.

Rev. Kenneth E. Hagin even attempted to reign them in and to talk some sense to them about their folly. Nevertheless, they only gave his godly counsel “lip service” at the time, and quickly turned back to their “wallowing in the mire” soon after he died in 2003.

But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”

(2 Peter 2:22, NKJV)

Then came the still-ongoing Senate Finance Committee investigation, and myriads of investigative news reports (as we have covered above within this very article). This was also from the Lord, we believe, because God has a long history of using even secular groups to bring judgment on people who refuse His repeated rebukes:

And the Lord sent against him raiding bands of Chaldeans, bands of Syrians, bands of Moabites, and bands of the people of Ammon; He sent them against Judah to destroy it, according to the word of the Lord which He had spoken by His servants the prophets. Surely at the commandment of the Lord this came upon Judah, to remove them from His sight…

(2 Kings 24:2-3, NKJV)

So our humble efforts here at have been simply a part of God’s overall longstanding redemptive effort to call these people to account—and to repentance. We are only adding to the accountability that God is placing upon the “heads” of these people, should they fail to take heed and to turn from their wickedness:

And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.

(Luke 12:47-48, NKJV, emphasis mine)

Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; therefore hear a word from My mouth, and give them warning from Me: When I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. Yet, if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.

(Ezekiel 3:17-19, NKJV, emphasis mine)

We believe that we have simply obeyed God in doing our small part to warn the Copelands and their followers to turn away from their sin. We have ALSO been very effective here…as the efforts by the Copelands to take this website away from us proves very clearly. But our concern is that time is running out for these people. Their sin has begun to come out into the public view in major proportions, but their ungodly behavior has only become increasingly desperate and absurd as a result. This concerns us TREMENDOUSLY, and thus, precipitated the writing of this very article.

We do NOT want to see judgment come upon ANY of the Copeland family or their followers here in this life—and we certainly do NOT want them to end up spending eternity damned!

The good news is that more and more people are leaving their cult. We hear from some of them, and they all have a similar testimony of “waking up” about the evil nature of the Copelands once they get out from under their influence. This affect upon their perspective is VERY much like a witchcraft “spell” that has been cast upon them to blind their minds. But by simply leaving the cult’s sphere of influence, it begins to quickly wear off. That is great news, indeed.

But we pray—and ask our advocates to pray—that the negative experience that these people endured will NOT be a stumbling-block to them that might hinder their faith in Christ. They need to understand that what evil they witnessed and/or endured, is NOT reflective on the truth doctrine of Christ in the LEAST BIT…but is merely MORE evidence that the Copelands have been unsaved false-ministers, aka, “wolves in sheep’s clothing”:

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

(2 Peter 2:1-3, NKJV)

So please pray for those still under that cult’s witchcraft-like influence, that they may awaken, repent, and leave there—and get saved (either for the first time or as a re-dedication). Please pray also for those who have left (and those who will leave), that they may quickly heal spiritually and emotionally from what they endured—and that they can thereafter grow in Christ and walk humbly with Him.

And now for a biblical benediction, which the Lord will bring upon all those who qualify for this blessing and who will also receive it from Him by faith:

Peace to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

(Ephesians 6:23-24, NKJV)

Thank you for your time in reading this redemptive treatise.

Always in Jesus,

-Rich Vermillion



John Copeland’s “Inheritance” Money




John Copeland’s “Inheritance” Money

by Donna Vermillion



The Invitation

Ah, yes. The 2007 KCM Minister’s Conference. What a special time for Kenneth and Gloria Copeland.

Creflo Dollar and John Copeland had sent out a letter to everyone on the “privileged” Minister’s Conference list (you know, it is a real honor to be “invited”). It stated that they were secretly taking up a one-million-dollar offering for Kenneth and Gloria.

Quiet…it’s a surprise! (I wonder now if they were just trying to keep it secret from the news media.)

The letter was on very nice stationery from Creflo Dollar’s ministry and signed by Creflo and also by John Copeland (Kenneth and Gloria’s son). When Rich and I received our copy in the mail, we were shocked and appalled. We were also certain that if Kenneth found out about this abuse of his “precious” Minister’s Conference mailing list, he would really have a problem with this. (This was because of the false image that we had of him, which was so brilliantly portrayed by “humble” Kenneth Copeland.)

I thought, “I can hear Brother Copeland now—telling Creflo and John they had no business using the Minister’s Conference mailing list to receive personal money for him and Gloria.” I told Rich, “Boy, Creflo and John are really going to get rebuked for this one.” Much to our surprise, however, Kenneth and Gloria were very receptive.

We were also told around that time—first-hand by a KCM staff member—that Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” had received many phone calls from some very irate ministers who had received the ridiculous letter. They were pretty angry about it—to the point that they called the ministry to complain. I would have loved to have done that, but I figured that the honorable “Brother” Copeland would take care of the job himself, once he found out about this.


Special Seating

Then the time came for the Minister’s Conference. KCM had even set up extensive “overflow” seating, because this was the big “Fortieth Anniversary Celebration” of Kenneth and Gloria’s (alleged) “ministry”! They just knew that multitudes would want to attend, so they extended their  “invitation” to many new ministers that year. The additional seating was ready to accommodate this crowd…but a funny thing happened. They never had to use it. Only a “normal” number came that year, although it looked like there were a lot of new faces there. (Maybe John and Creflo’s “offering” letter had something to do with the apparent low turnout of the veteran attendees.)

So there Rich and I were, sitting in the third row during all three days of the conference. Although this was our sixth year there, this one was really exciting for us. We had gotten the special “name-on-the-seat” seating because of the Angel Flight 44 book that my husband had written about Glen Hyde and Kenneth Copeland, so we had a really good view. They offered free copies of the book to all the ministers attending. (See the Angel Flight 44 section of this website for more information about KCM’s apparent fraud associated with the alleged Angel Flight 44 ministry.)


More, More, More!

Finally, the night came to give the big “love offering” to Kenneth and Gloria. This was during the last session of the conference, on the third evening. We ordered the DVDs of the entire conference. However, large portions of this part of the service were conveniently omitted from the DVD for the last session. (This is another fact that makes me believe that they wanted it to remain “a secret”—for the probable purpose of keeping the local news from reporting on it.)

So, Creflo jumped up onto the platform before Kenneth could get the microphone, and announced the big event. (I am actually assuming that Kenneth and Gloria were being honest when they acted like this was the first time that they had heard of all this.)

The letter had said that Creflo and John were trying to get $1 million for the couple. (They were trying to collect most of that money before the conference, so they were accepting offerings ahead of time.) At the actual minister’s conference event, however, Creflo Dollar announced that he felt like one million dollars was just not enough! (I guess he was trying to scrape up enough money for jet fuel for Ken’s hunting trips and Gloria’s shopping ventures in the “ministry” jet.)

So the $1-million fundraising goal turned into $2 million! When he announced that, I thought, “This is really going too far.”


Den of Thieves

They brazenly set up a table near the front of the auditorium, to the left of the platform (as you face the platform). Two KCM employees took their posts at the table, as they established the equivalent of a retail store checkout register. They even made it easy to give, so we wouldn’t have any excuses. They received checks, credit cards, and cash. (What a blessing!)

Yes, we actually broke down and gave something—just like the rest of the cattle (uh…I mean, conference attendees).

It was a baffling thing. On the one hand, we were very surprised Kenneth was “putting up” with such madness. On the other hand, we started to think it might be “okay” to give because we trusted that Kenneth Copeland was a man of integrity. So we thought, “It must be the right thing to do…or is it?”

We had limited time to give and very little time to really think this thing through—and no time to go off alone as husband and wife somewhere to discuss this perplexing situation—so we went ahead and gave something into the offering. Any salesman will tell you it is much better to try to “close the sale” on the spot, rather than to give the customer a chance to think about it (for they might just change their mind).

So they did it! With much pulling and prodding, they reached their goal. Good job, Creflo.


Veggie Tears

After the offering was taken up, a teary-eyed Gloria Copeland said from the platform, “No one has ever given us this much money before.” Wow. (As “Larry the Cucumber” once said to his tomato friend in one of our children’s VeggieTales videos, “I laughed, I cried…it moved me, Bob.”)

What a touching moment. Gloria’s tears seemed so genuine. “More shopping money!” she probably thought to herself. She acted like she was a poor orphan receiving an unexpected windfall—who up until that moment didn’t know where her next meal was coming from.

I wonder how many attending ministers suffered financially just to get to the conference, while Mr. and Mrs. “Good Ground” raked in their harvest. (By the way, did any of you ever notice what Proverbs 22:16 says about giving to rich people? We have, and we repented.)

Unfortunately, there never was an offer given to the shell-shocked attendees to request refunds. I am sure that more than a few of us experienced “buyer’s remorse” for our contributions. It is a very good thing that Rich and I didn’t give a “suicide offering” and clean out our bank accounts for this one. I hope no one else did either.

But hey, at least we know Kenneth’s and Gloria’s bank accounts are okay!


John’s Inheritance

Towards the end of the “celebration,” John Copeland, who had partnered-up with Creflo to put this whole mess together, got up on the platform and—after thanking Creflo profusely for his fundraising efforts—distastefully joked, “I will gladly share my inheritance with you, Creflo Dollar.'” (This is an exact quote from the service video that they must have forgotten to edit out before shipping the DVD.) Creflo thanked John for his “gracious” promise and beamed with a large smile.

So congratulations, John. Working with Creflo Dollar, you’ve helped build an “inheritance” for your children! Just don’t tell your kids how you got it, and maybe they will still respect you when they grow up. (Oh, and John…please do not forget about your commitment to Creflo. His kids are surely lacking their own “inheritance” at donor expense, aren’t they?)


—Donna Vermillion

Donna Vermillion








A Special Note from Rich’s Wife




A Special Note from Rich’s Wife



I am so grateful that we have had this opportunity to help so many people who have been hurt or misled by Kenneth Copeland “Ministries” (KCM), and other similar organizations. Since the launch of this website back in October of 2008, we have had numerous (even documented) reports from people who have worked for KCM—some for over a decade—who all had similar testimonies of  the ungodly emotional terrorism that they experienced at the place that proudly states, “We’re Here for You.” It is our sincere hope that continues to bring much healing to those people and to their families. It is also our strong desire that those within the Copeland family and among the leaders of KCM will take the things that we say to heart and judge themselves—for they will one day face the One Who is above us all (even above Kenneth Copeland), Who will certainly judge righteously.

We have been told by some whistle-blowers that the faithful ex-employees of KCM were (and are) heavily intimidated by the various fear tactics used towards them by the “ministry” that boasts of “No Fear Here.”  Those who were fired were apparently pressured into signing (illegal?) confidentiality agreements, and were told by these ministers of Satan about potential legal ramifications if they ever spoke out. This fear tactic of law suit threats is also documented on the recent report from Senator Grassley’s office. (By the way, in case you have been wondering what might be the REAL reason why KCM’s website says they are “Now Hiring” during this economic recession, it is because they have “Been Firing” long-term, higher-paid employees in order to cut their overhead. So it is not really expansion that is happening, but rather down-sizing.)

The workers were also told that if they spoke out and told people that KCM had fired them, then “God” would strike their households for “touching God’s anointed” (i.e. Kenneth and Gloria—the “only ones” who have a pipeline straight to God…almost up there with the Trinity in some people’s minds).

God’s anointed what? I’m trying to figure out what they are “anointed” to do. “Anointed” to give false prophesies to their buddies? “Anointed” to received obscene salaries (by faith, of course) and to fly around in style to spread heresy? “Anointed” to…well, you fill in the blank. This does not compute. And why do these ravenous wolves think that they are not guilty of “touching God’s anointed,” when they crush members of the Body of Christ (i.e. members of the Anointed One) repeatedly? My friends, the Copeland family’s public image persona does not at all seem to line up with their behind-the-scenes dealings with people.

We once told an associate pastor of KCM’s Eagle Mountain International Church (EMIC) about some major concerns that we had about one of their favorite guest ministers. He told us that he was very interested in what we had to say but that we needed to provide documentation.  That was fair. (You can probably tell by this website that we are actually very much in favor of documenting things.) So we gave proof to him.

He later came back with the cowardly reply that we should “lay low” about it. (He had obviously received instruction from his superior on the matter.) He told us that this errant “minister” we warned them about was in “very good standing with the ‘ministry'” (i.e. KCM/EMIC)—that is, in the form of writing big checks, of course—and that if we pushed the issue any further, it would “harm our relationship with Kenneth” (God forbid!). He also told us that this might harm our own ministry future (as if Kenneth was the one who had called us into the ministry, and was the most influential member on God’s advisory board or something).

The fact that this particular guest “minister” was also an admitted member “in very good standing” of a Satanic cult was completely irrelevant to the EMIC leadership. Can you see a serious absence of the fear of God here? Can you also see the propensity of this associate “pastor” to almost deify Kenneth, to the point that what God’s Word said about this issue suddenly did not matter at all in his decision-making? His “counsel” to us was very telling. It showed us his complete lack of character. But, after all, that is likely why he was placed in such a high position at EMIC to begin with.

This guy was apparently typical of those in leadership positions there. More titles! More status! More popularity! In their minds, no one gets promoted in ministry except through Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. My friends, this is nothing more than unrefined idolatry—just pure and raw, straight from Hell itself. That same EMIC associate pastor told us that he liked titles. He laughed when he said it, but anyone hearing it (and seeing the fruit in his life) could tell he really meant it.

On a closing note, let me point out we are not in the same exact category as those who have been directly abused by KCM in some way (though we were indirectly mistreated by them). Unlike many of our whistle-blowers, we were never employed by KCM. There is also no desire for “revenge” in our hearts. There is no “standing up for our rights” going on here.

Rather, we are simply standing up for righteousnesspartially for the sake of those who cannot speak out for themselves (i.e. because they have been threatened so harshly by these ravening wolves). We are bringing many things about KCM/EMIC out into the light where these issues can be exposed, confronted, and judged according to God’s Word. It is our prayer that continues to bring healing to the wounded—and that it results in a compulsion to repent in the hearts of the evildoers.


Blessings to all of you who serve Him,

-Donna Vermillion

Donna Vermillion






Kenneth and Gloria Copeland: The Untold Story


A young Gloria, on the back of the motorcycle with a young Kenneth Copeland.


Kenneth and Gloria Copeland: The Untold Story


There is little doubt that Kenneth and Gloria Copeland’s testimonies are quite remarkable. What is doubtful is how accurate those testimonies might be.

Many aspects thereof have been published within their books and periodicals, and mentioned during their services and television broadcasts. However, there are some details that are typically left out of these family anecdotes that are quite revealing about the true character and history of this group.

We will be discussing not only the Copelands and Pearsons, but also Gloria’s side of the family, the Neeces. Several members of the Neece family currently work at Kenneth Copeland Ministries (KCM), and several more worked for them in the past. Thus, the character of this ‘ministry’ is revealed within the family members on Gloria’s side as much as among the other Copeland/Pearsons children and grandchildren.

Note: The following discussion is a biblical analysis of the qualifications of the Copeland, Pearsons, and Neece families for ministry. It is preceded on this blog by the article, The ‘Family Test’, which details the scriptural foundations of such an unpleasant discussion. Since this is one of the most disturbing and regrettable posts that we have had to write to date, it is extremely important that it be understood within its proper context. Thus, it is highly recommended that everyone first review the preceding article before venturing into the content below. This will help to avoid misunderstandings regarding its presence here on

Lastly, full names and dates are given (when known) to permit others to verify the information that we have presented here from public records.


Update Log

[Update July 17, 2015: We added an update regarding the apparent divorce of Kellie Copeland from her third husband, Stephen Swisher. The related section on Kellie’s divorce from her second husband, Win Kutz (who is still alive) was also updated with further information. Additional corrections/tweaks to this page have been made, as well.]

[Update January 18, 2013: We added an entirely new article, Are the Copeland FREEMASONS? Separating Fact from Fallacy, within a new “Freemasonry and the Copeland Family” section on the Table of Contents page. Thus, this new series of articles (of which the aforementioned article is the first installment) will bring out an entirely new “untold story” for the public to consider with regard to this family. This, of course, also highlights the serious question that I asked within the article, Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED?, listed within my previous update below.]

[Update March 9, 2012: We added an introductory paragraph and link at the bottom of this article, which forwards the reader to the next article of this “Are the Copelands Biblically Qualified For Ministry?” section of the website. That article, Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED?, examines this important question in the light of documented facts, video, and the Scriptures, with a sincere concern about the state of this family’s souls.]

[Update July 3, 2011: We updated information within the Kellie Copeland Ward Kutz Swisher section to reflect the arrival of her fifth child by her third husband, Stephen. We also added a strange note about her older daughter’s apparent last name change. Then we updated the Jeremy Pearsons section to reflect his marriage to his second wife, Sarah.]

[Update on March 30, 2011: We checked the statistics of this Kenneth and Gloria Copeland: The Untold Story article and contrasted them with those of the prerequisite post, The ‘Family Test’noted above. We discovered that, to date, only ONE out of every FOURTEEN (1 out of 14) of the people who read this post, also read the first—though The ‘Family Test’ is the biblical foundation upon which this discussion is based.

Though this fact is obviously very concerning in and of itself, the thing that is most absurd is that a few of those same people have emailed us to express the opinion that we are not operating upon biblical principles with this Copeland-family discussion. However, if they would have only taken the time to READ The ‘Family Test’, they would have known beforehand that their objections had already been answered. So their subsequent protests were silly, misguided—and unscriptural.

And if such people also took the extra time to review The Biblical Basis for this Public Rebuke and The “Convenient Doctrines” of Preachers in Sin—which are the posts that are prefatory to this entire website—they might even learn something that would help them demonstrate genuine concern for the welfare of the Copeland family, by joining us in calling on the Copelands to simply repent BEFORE God’s judgment comes upon that family. (Some of these so-called “Copeland supporters” have actually been so obscene as to even suggest that we should end our redemptive efforts and “just let God judge them”—though that would be cruel since the biblical accounts of such divine wrath are terrifying to consider.)

Nevertheless, the majority of the emails we receive are from ex-Copeland-cult members and other honest Christians, who applaud our efforts and encourage our work. We are very grateful to the Lord for such godly advocates of our project.

Regarding the others, we simply endure (and ignore the emails of) such errant people by the grace of God for the Copelands’ sake, and for the sake of those led astray by these fraudulent wolves. In short, we have no intention of quitting this effort until either the Copelands repent…or the unfortunate circumstance of God’s judgment coming upon them eliminates the need for continuing our loving redemptive effort.]

[Update on September 12, 2010: Clarified in both the “Kellie Dee Copeland Ward Kutz Swisher” and the “The Copelands’ Elite ‘No See Ex’ Team” sections that Kellie’s second ex-husband, Alan Win Kutz, is still very much alive; and that he did NOT die in a Copeland-owned plane crash in 2008, as has been widely rumored on the Internet by some very foolish people.]

[Update on August 4, 2010: New marriage and name information was added to the ‘David Neece’ and ‘Richard Neece’ listings. Copeland family members names and birth dates were updated also, including Gloria’s birthday. A new section on “ex-spouses” was added below the Jeremy Pearsons listing. Other minor tweaks have been made as well.]


Sources of Data:

Cover image of the book, "The First 30 Years: A Journey of Faith"

Cover image of the book, “The First 30 Years: A Journey of Faith” (Click to enlarge.)

For simplicity’s sake, we will primarily utilize within this brief timeline the information provided in the book that was published in celebration of their 30th ministry anniversary back in 1997. It is entitled, The First 30 Years: A Journey of Faith (hereafter referred to as, The First 30 Years).

Augmenting this information, however, will be some details provided by court documents given to us by advocates of We will also utilize information provided to us by sources both inside and outside of KCM concerning the Copeland and Neece families (i.e. Gloria’s relatives), including public records from government sources, as well as the testimonies of family/ministry insiders.

The additional sources of information mentioned above certainly provide us a MUCH more comprehensive view of these families, and a more robust timeline of Kenneth Copeland’s earlier years. These details will prove helpful in evaluating their ministerial qualifications; and they will be very useful when we discuss some of the family members more specifically in subsequent posts.

As a quick note: We want to thank the “whistle blowers” who have helped to provide this information. They have a real zeal to see the true nature of KCM brought into the public light in order that others might be warned. They all have also acknowledged a sincere desire to see the Copeland, Pearsons, and Neece, families repent of their sins; and to see them demonstrate true Christian character and pure ministry integrity. Thank you all for your help and encouragement.


Kenneth’s Early Years/First Marriage:

Kenneth Max Copeland was born on December 6, 1936, in Lubbock Texas. His parents were A. W. and Vinita Pearl Owens Copeland, and they remained married until Vinita’s death in 1988.

Daughter Terri Lin Copeland Pearsons was born to parents Kenneth Max and Ivy Sandra Bodiford Copeland on August 26, 1957. Obviously, Ivy was Kenneth’s first wife. He would have been 20 years old at the time of Terri’s birth.

Ivy Sandra Copeland was the one of the two who filed for divorce; which is revealed by the fact that she is shown as the “plaintiff” of record in the court document (download the court document by clicking here). She was granted the divorce (to include child support) on March 18, 1958. The civil docket records within a handwritten note,:


Both parties were present at trial. Divorce granted – custody of child to her – he has right to visit. He is ordered to pay $15 each Friday beginning this Friday. Defendant…” referring to Kenneth, “… gave notice of appeal. She is awarded ½ interest in income from contract on all recordings she has made to date under Leonard Contract.


Three years later, court documents show that Kenneth was found in contempt of court on March 31, 1961 for failing to consistently pay his required $15 per week child support to Ivy for Terri (download the court document by clicking here). He was in arrears for $1,090.00 (just over 72 weeks worth of support).

A comparison of $1090 in 1961 dollars to today's value.

To comprehend the size of that amount of money in today’s dollars, it would be about $8,000 if we can believe government inflation statistics. It would be more accurate to say that amount is about $26,000 in today’s comparable purchasing power (see the chart above)

Another way to imagine it is to compare the price of gold: In 1961  the U.S. dollar was still on the international gold exchange standard, based upon the 1944 Bretton Woods agreement. Back then, $1,090 would buy about 31 ounces of gold. Today, it would take about $37,000 to buy that same amount of bullion.

Terri Lin Copeland as a child, in an undated photograph.

Terri Lin Copeland as a child, in an undated photograph. (Click to enlarge.)

Regardless of how one tries to translate that 1961 amount into current values, that is some pretty significant unpaid child support. And there can be no doubt that the money was really needed by Ivy as she tried to raise their little girl as a single mother. No wonder she took Kenneth back to court…

Interestingly, the court documents indicate that Kenneth did not show up for the proceeding (download the court document by clicking here). So the judge found him in contempt and ordered the Sheriff of Tarrant County to arrest Kenneth and to place him in jail for one day minimum, and until he had paid the back child support plus court costs.

On June 5th, 1961 the court records show that he had surely been arrested at some intervening point, and that Kenneth had spent one night in jail (download the court document by clicking here). It would appear that such an experience got his attention. He subsequently made arrangements with the court to pay $50 down for the child support, $23.03 for court costs, and then $12.50 per week thereafter in regular child support, with the remaining $1,040 of child support in arrears to be paid later. It seems that he did not spend any additional time in jail after the court accepted this agreement (unless there are other records of which we are not aware). So it seems as if the matter was settled at that time.


Kenneth’s Second Marriage:

I was not able to determine the date of Kenneth’s second marriage. What is documented, however, is that on November 2, 1961, Kenneth and his second wife, Cynthia Ann Copeland, were granted a divorce (download the court document by clicking here).

This court document indicates that Kenneth was the “plaintiff” which means that he was the one who filed for divorce this time. However, it also calls Cynthia Ann the “cross-plaintiff” therein, which indicates that she was also wanting to end the marriage for some reason. Thus, it seems that their divorce was a mutual decision, though Kenneth is the party who originally filed. There were no children.

It is interesting to note also that the unpaid child support and jail-time incidents mentioned above took place during this second marriage. Was that a contributing cause to this second divorce? Or was it something else?


Only five months after his second divorce was finalized, on April 13, 1962, Kenneth and Gloria were married.


Kenneth & Gloria’s Marriage:

It is not known (nor can I find it to ever have been reported by the Copelands) what year Kenneth and Gloria first met. Again, it is only known from the records that they married about five months after Kenneth’s second divorce was finalized. It is also not known how long their courtship lasted. What is known is that He was 25 years old at the time, and she had just turned 20 that February before.

In the book, The First 30 Years, Kenneth explained his “courtship” and marriage proposal to his young third wife, Gloria Jean Neece, in this manner on page 26 (with emphasis added):

A few days later, I met Gloria and fell in love with her the minute I saw her. “This is different!” I realized.

Every idea I’d ever had about love flew out the window.

On my first date with Gloria I found myself singing to her.

“Whooh! Man, this is something,” I thought when I caught myself. I hadn’t planned on singing. I wasn’t trying to impress her or con her into something. I just couldn’t help it. I knew right then that I wanted to marry this woman. I figured it would take me a year to talk her into it, so I decided to get an early start. I didn’t know what it would take to get her to marry me, but I was ready to lie, cheat, steal or con to make it happen.

I really thought, “This is going to take a long time—maybe years—to win her over, so I’m going to ask her now.”

After our date, I walked her up to the front porch and opened the door.

“Gloria,” I said. She turned around and looked at me. “Will you marry me?”

She said, “Yes—I will.” Then she turned around and went inside the house and closed the door.

Left me standing there stammering and muttering in disbelief.

Gloria and Kenneth, in an undated photo from their earliest days together. (Click to enlarge.)

In the light of Kenneth having been married and divorced twice already, his sudden marriage proposal on his very first date with Gloria seems very different than the “storybook” version that has been generally conveyed by KCM over the years. Since there has never been any time frame given as to how long after the proposal it was before the two were wed, questions remain:

  • Did Kenneth meet Gloria before he was divorced from Cynthia Ann?
  • Did Kenneth and Gloria date each other while he was seeking a divorce?
  • Was Gloria the reason that he filed for his second divorce?

The close time-proximity and circumstances of Kenneth’s second divorce seem to support the possibility that any of the above questions could be answered, “yes.” Moreover, the lack of substantiated dates and timelines from the Copelands certainly leaves us with little clarification on their part. In fact, the evidence suggests that many of these details have been hidden by the Copelands for many years.



Gloria’s Family, the Neeces:

Neece family pictures, from celebration of Kenneth's 60th birthday in 1996.

Neece family pictures, from the celebration of Kenneth’s 60th birthday in 1996. In the top picture, from left to right: Doug, Richard, Jan, Missy, and Tommy. In the bottom picture: Mary Neece, Kellie Copeland Kutz and her daughter, Rachel Ward, and Gloria Neece Copeland. (Click to enlarge.)


Gloria’s birth date used to be somewhat of a mystery, but my “whistle blowers” have come through again. She was born February 12, 1942 to Wallace Raymond Neece and Mary Lois Allinder Neece. She is the oldest of seven children, and her biological siblings are:

Douglas Raymond Neece – Doug was at one time one of the executives of KCM. He was married to Mary Delaine Bonds Neece on August 4 1966, both of them at the tender age of 19. However, he divorced Delaine (under rather questionable circumstances, according to ministry insiders) and soon thereafter married his current wife, Linda

Delaine is still working at KCM, however, and is now Kenneth and Gloria’s personal secretary.

Doug now owns a media company called “Integrity Media” which purchases the air time for KCM’s Believer’s Voice of Victory broadcast. In an AP Newswire story about his media company entitled Relatives of Televangelist Prosper they explained:


Located in an office complex in a north Dallas suburb, Integrity Media is the kind of company that plays a little-known but important role in the world of televangelism: negotiating the purchase of television time for Christian ministries.

Douglas Neece, the company’s president, said Kenneth Copeland Ministries is Integrity Media’s biggest client, accounting for just over 50 percent of its business. Neece is Kenneth Copeland’s brother-in-law. Neece’s son, Joel, also works for the company….

Their television time is bought at market rates and the ministry gets a discount from Integrity Media…Douglas Neece said his company charges a “deeply discounted” commission below the industry standard of 15 percent. “We earn our money,” Neece said. “That’s just the way it is. We have nothing to hide.”

KCM's own 2007 "Pie Chart" of ministry expenditures.
(Click to enlarge this KCM chart.)

According to Kenneth Copeland at the 2008 KCM Minister’s Conference, KCM took in just over $100 million in revenue in 2007. It is indicated with KCM’s 2007 “pie chart” of ministry expenditures (which conveniently omits any and all salary and compensation details), that they spent 34%, or about $34 million, for television and media. Assuming a generous reduction of 1/3 to account for KCM salaries and equipment depreciation, we can safely assume that about $22 million was spent for actual airtime purchases from Doug’s company. This would have netted his firm roughly $3 million in fees from KCM (without the unspecified discount). That was about half of his company’s total revenue, according to Doug.

Richard Warren Neece – Richard is also Gloria’s brother, and is known to have worked for KCM. He married his first wife, Janell Luann Pye Neece, on July 18, 1970 in Tipton County, Tennessee. He was a young 19, and she was a very tender 15. Richard divorced her, however, (under questionable circumstances) circa 1986 (but we cannot confirm the date).

He was married to his second wife of about two years, Rebecca L. Neece, on October 10, 1986 and then they divorced on August 9, 1988. Richard then remarried a year later on August 18, 1989 to Maria E. Neece, but was again divorced less than a year later on June 25, 1990.

Interestingly, the Texas marriage records indicate that Richard and Rebecca L. Neece were remarried a second time on January 7, 1991, but were also divorced once again October 28, 1993. His present marital status is unknown.

Thomas “Tommy” David Neece – He is pictured with his siblings in the photograph on this page, but is not known to have worked at KCM. His marriage history is also unknown.

Jan Elizabeth Neece Harbour – Gloria’s eldest younger sister, and currently the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of KCM. She is divorced from Michael Harbour.

Stanley Alan Neece – Stanley was the youngest brother of Gloria. He was married once to Gail E. Neece in 1979, and then divorced in 1984. He died in 1997 in a car wreck in Arkansas.

Mary “Missy” Carole Neece Camp Johnson – Missy is Gloria’s youngest sister; and was also formerly employed at KCM for about twenty years, beginning at age 13 (according to her). Her last position was as the Marketing and Publications Director, “overseeing the production of the monthly magazines, new product development and purchasing all airtime for the Believer’s Voice of Victory international television broadcast” (i.e. from her older brother Doug’s media company).

Missy’s original marriage to Floyd E. Camp was dissolved in 1984 under VERY questionable circumstances, and she immediately remarried to long time KCM employee, Leslie Scott Johnson, who simultaneously divorced his wife under VERY questionable circumstances as well. Scott had worked at KCM from 1979 to 1999, and was the Director of Television for KCM from 1993-1999.

Jesus stated that for a person to simply divorce his or her spouse to marry someone else, it was adultery (see Matthew 5:31-32; 19:8-9; Mark 10:11-12; and Luke 16:18). If they each divorced their spouses to marry one another, then that would certainly qualify biblically as a double adultery (just on the marriage issue alone.) However, according to ministry insiders, it was widely known within KCM that their adultery had begun before the divorces were obtained. The marriage and divorce records of Missy and Scott certainly seem to support that generally held belief. Nevertheless, the rumors were suppressed by KCM, and the two continued to work there for another fifteen years.

They finally left KCM to ‘pastor’ in Amarillo, Texas in 1999, by founding the “Believer’s Way Church“ (

(Note: To see the actual marriage data that we were able to obtain from Texas state records for some of the information above, and some of the Copeland family information that will soon follow, click here.)

So among Gloria’s six siblings, there are known to have been at least eight divorces (some under rather questionable circumstances). One has to wonder about the causes of such a widespread plague of divorces among Gloria’s brothers and sisters. One clue might be her parents…

It would also seem that Gloria’s parents were divorced at some point. In The First 30 Years book published by KCM, Mary Neece explained on page 124:

I had never imagined my life outside of Center Point, Arkansas. But I packed up and moved to Fort Worth to help Kenneth and Gloria. I still had three of my own children at home, and now I was going to help keep Kellie and John. It was a decision I’ve never regretted.

She then began working at Kenneth Copeland Evangelistic Association in the 1970s (as it was called back then). The offices were then located on University Drive at the time, and she said their entire staff was about six people. The picture of her “packing up and moving” with three kids, and with no mention of Wallace, suggests there had been a divorce.

Moreover, Gloria’s dad’s obituary, published in the Nevada County Picayune on June 9, 1999, did not list Mary as surviving him (as of 2006, she was still alive and living in Argyle, Texas):

Wallace Raymond Neece, 78, of Nashville died Thursday, June 3, 1999, in Nashville.

Mr. Neece was born May 25, 1921, in Center Point to the late Alger and Clara Tinsley Neece. He was a member of the First Baptist Church in Nashville. He was a U.S. Army veteran of World War II. Mr. Neece was a graduate of Arkansas State Teachers College (now the University of Central Arkansas), where he received his master’s degree. He was school administrator at several different schools, including a teacher at Center Point; a teacher in Springhill as well as a basketball coach. He was also assistant principal in Jacksonville, superintendent at Blevins and principal at Prescott. He was preceded in death by a grandfather, Nikki Turner, in 1993 and a son, Stanley Neece, in 1997.

Survivors include six children, Gloria Copeland, Richard Neece, Jan Harbour and Missy Johnson all of Fort Worth, Texas, Doug Neece of Argyle, Texas, and Tommy Neece of Destin, Fla.; 15 grandchildren; nine great grandchildren; and a host of other family and friends.

Funeral services were Saturday, June 5, at Nashville Funeral Home with Dr. David Blase and Rev. Kenneth Copeland officiating. Interment was in Center Point Cemetery under the direction of Nashville Funeral Home.

So it would seem that the Neece side of the family has had some real challenges within their marriages. Some of them are also believed by ministry insiders to have experienced infidelity issues through the years. Much of this has happened even when such family members were working for Kenneth Copeland Ministries.


Conversion Testimony:

According to their testimony, in 1962 in Little Rock, Arkansas, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland were born again. Gloria’s conversion was reportedly first. She recalls praying a private prayer after reading a Bible that Vinita Copeland had given Kenneth.

Kenneth’s testimony of conversion was that several weeks later he heard the voice of God tell him, “If you and your family don’t get in line with the Word of God, you’ll go to the devil’s hell.” He reports that he then cried out, “I know it, Lord! I know it! I’ll do whatever I have to do. Now, what do I do?” Remembering some instruction that an old Sunday School teacher had spoken when he was a child, he then reportedly asked Jesus to “move in” to his heart.

Both conversions, according to their testimonies, were in private. Therefore, there are no known witnesses thereto.

Moreover, given Gloria’s domineering personality (something that is well-hidden from the public, but well-known to many staff of KCM), and the MANY Kenneth’s lies and frauds documented here on to date (and the many more we plan to document in the future), there is sufficient reason to question the soundness of their conversion experiences. The Bible DOES discuss such things as false converts, and in particular “false brethren, false ministers, false prophets, and false apostles.” (Note, for example: Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Corinthians 13:5; and 2 Corinthians 11:12-15.) This should give all Christians great cause to pause and reflect.

Before moving on to discuss additional Copeland family issues, is also important to point out that Kenneth and Gloria have gone to great lengths (with the cooperation of their family and KCM) to hide these details from the public view. If Kenneth and Gloria’s improprieties were simply “pre-Christ” sins that have been washed in the Blood of the Lamb, then why has there been such an effort to hide these facts (especially the facts about Kenneth’s first two marriages)?

Should he not have rather said, “I was an old dog of a person before I got saved, and I made a real mess of my life before I found Jesus. But at least I got a great daughter from my first marriage, and I am remorseful for the hurt I caused my previous wives.” However, he has never done so to date. Why? Is it because of Gloria? (Ministry insiders say that it is.)

And what can be said about the many other family divorce and probable adultery issues by family members who professed to be Christians—and even worked for the ministry?

Lastly, consider the fact also that the children and grandchildren of both Kenneth and Gloria have experienced major marriage issues through the years also. This fact would seem to suggest that there are some unidentified or uncorrected spiritual and moral issues within the Copeland and Neece families that are affecting additional generations.

To explore this last point just a bit farther, let’s examine briefly a few more issues.


Kellie Dee Copeland Ward Kutz Swisher:

Kellie Dee Copeland Ward Kutz Swisher was born February 9, 1964.

Kellie’s first marriage was to Doyle Blaine Ward on September 18 1982, according to Texas state records. The two had two daughters, Rachel and Lindsey. They were divorced, but the date and conditions thereof are not clear.

Kellie’s second marriage was to Alan Win Kutz, Jr. on November 7, 1985 (pictured). They had two children together, Jenny and Max (the latter of which was named after Kellie’s dad’s middle name, “Kenneth Max Copeland”).

Win and Kellie Kutz with their four children, circa 1996.

Win and Kellie Kutz with their children, circa 1996 (from left to right): Max, Lyndsey (Ward), Rachel (Ward), and Jenny. (Click to enlarge.)

Win and Kellie were separated sometime in late 2004 or early 2005, with rumors of Win’s infidelity with “multiple” women being widely spread around EMIC church. We were attending there at the time, and heard these stories ourselves. However, we now believe that the story was expanded quite a bit farther than the facts justified. This elaboration was perhaps due in-part to the normal “expansion” that occurs when people share a rumor, but we also have reason to believe that some of the fabrications were intentional in order to cover for Kellie and the family.

Sources of ours who were directly familiar with the family have confirmed to us only that Win was caught having an affair with only one woman, whom he later married. They also tell us that Kellie seemed to be a rather cold and domineering wife after she and Win had been married for a few years, even walking noticeably ahead of him in public quite often. We were also told that the men of the family (i.e., Kenneth, John, George) were wanting to see Win Kutz forgiven after he was caught in the affair (the details of which we do not know, and would not publish even if we did). Nevertheless, the women of the family (i.e., Gloria, Terry, Marty, and of course, Kellie) would not have it that way at all. (Note: Multiple sources have told us what we have seemed to witness ourselves to some extent. Namely, that KCM and EMIC seem to be dominated by the women of the family, despite public pretenses of submission to their husbands.)

So after running him off from KCM and the family, Win and Kellie were later divorced February 10, 2005. Win Kutz then married the woman with whom he had committed adultery, and we understand from our sources that they seem to be doing well together.

(Note: Win Kutz is still alive, by the way…and did NOT die in a plane crash in 2008. That false story has has been spread widely around the Internet, but he is still alive at the time of this writing.)

Stephen and Kellie Swisher, in a 2009 photo from the BVOV television set.

Stephen and Kellie Swisher, in a 2009 photo on the BVOV television set (click to enlarge)

Kellie was remarried for the third time to Stephen Lowell Swisher on July 18, 2008 at Eagle Mountain International Church. The two thereafter appeared regularly together in public meetings, and on television broadcasts (including the Copelands’ own BVOV program), for several years.

Stephen Swisher, holding their new daughter, Emily Jean Ann Swisher, in an undated photo from early 2011.

Stephen Swisher, holding their new daughter, Emily Jean Ann Swisher, in an undated photo from early 2011. (click to enlarge)

Kellie gave birth to her fifth child and fourth daughter, Emily Jean Ann Swisher, sometime in January 2011. Kellie was just a few weeks short of her 47th birthday, and Stephen was about 43 years of age (his exact birthday is unknown), when their new baby girl was born. To our knowledge, this is Stephen’s first child.

The official birth announcement that included the photo on this page of Stephen with little Emily, was made by Kellie during her June 27th, 2011 appearance on the BVOV broadcast. The title of the week-long series of programs was The Love of God and His Good Plan for You. The product offering for that series of broadcasts was KCM’s “Power of Love Package,” which includes the teaching series, “Building Relationships that Last.” We had hoped that, like her father, her third marriage would indeed stand the test of time. Unfortunately, that did not seem to be the case.

The last entry on the “Stephen and Kellie Swisher” page of KCM was from January of 2014, and the video portion of that post only included Kellie. (Ironically, Kellie was discussing her father’s “prophecy” for 2014 in which it was supposed to be the “Year of victory over death and manifested love.”) The last known public appearance of Stephen Swisher with Kellie was in April of 2014. That is also the month in which he mad his last public mention of her on his public Facebook page or Swisher’s personal Facebook page. The two had shared a public page together, but Kellie disappeared from it shortly thereafter and reappeared on the public Facebook page of Kenneth Copeland (her father). That may have raised some eyebrows because she did not stay on there long, and soon after merged her public page with that of her mother, Gloria. As of the time of this writing, however, she is no longer on there either. There does not seem to be an independent Facebook page for either “Kellie Copeland” or “Kellie Swisher” today (although one could exist but be blocking search queries). Searches for her result in her mother’s Facebook page, which seems to indicate that she was on there still until recently.

Kellie Copeland Swisher on the June 28, 2011 BVOV broadcast.

Kellie Copeland Ward Kutz Swisher teaching about love and relationships on the June 28, 2011 BVOV broadcast. (click to enlarge)

Based upon the contents of his Facebook posts, Stephen Swisher moved back to Mason, Ohio sometime around the middle of 2014 and began pastoring his United Methodist Church there full time once again. So at a minimum, it appears that Swisher has been separated from Kellie since that time. However, an examination of Swisher’s personal Facebook page now reveals that he no longer has himself on there marked as being “married.” Furthermore, a search among his friends list did not turn up Kellie, although a few of her family members are still on his list. Pictures of their adorable daughter, Emily, cover both of his Facebook pages, yet her mother is never mentioned. Given the sheer volume of photos of his daughter provided by Stephen on Facebook over time, it also appears that Emily lives with him full time in Ohio. Stephen has also mentioned his daughter returning “home” from Texas within a few Facebook posts, perhaps from visiting Kellie and the Copeland side of the family.

KCM's "Power of Love Package" being sold on the BVOV broadcast.

KCM’s “Power of Love Package” being sold on the BVOV broadcast. The Copeland family teaching on “Building Relationships that Last” is included…without any reason given for why they are remotely qualified to teach on that subject. (click to enlarge)

Thus, it appears (i.e., from all of the available public evidence) that Stephen Swisher and Kellie Copeland have now fully divorced (or soon will). Sources who were familiar with them both while they were still married and living together in Texas have indicated to us that Kellie was once again starting to show the similar domineering patterns of disrespect toward Stephen that she had done for the last few years of her marriage to Win Kutz. (Those sources have not had contact with either Kellie or Stephen in a few years, however, and do not have direct knowledge of whether they are divorced today.) Given that Stephen seems to have custody of Emily, then it appears that the Copelands have gone out of their way to accommodate him. This tends to suggest that he had initiated the separation and subsequent divorce proceedings, particularly in the light of Stephen’s utter lack of public mention of her name for well over a year.

NOTE: We have been monitoring the situation between Stephen and Kellie for over a year now, and have refrained from addressing this matter publicly in order to allow them time to (hopefully) work things out. Nevertheless, there does not seem to be any evidence of reconciliation between the two of them. If anything, they seem more independent of each other than ever. So since we have had a regular influx of people to this page who are seeking information on this subject, we felt that it was time to finally update this page accordingly. As was explained in The ‘Family Test’, it is quite biblical to examine the “fruit” of anyone claiming to be a minister, to include their marriages. Thus, we have to work with what we have available in order to accomplish this as best as we can since most of the Copelands will not be relatively honest about themselves and address matters openly, as Jeremy did on one occasion (see below). Nevertheless, if any new information comes to light that clarifies or disproves what we have inferred from the public information that is available, then we will update this page again in order to reflect these corrections.

We will now return to the original text of this article, having finished this unfortunate update to this section.

Changing the subject to a related issue: Another strange twist to the saga of Kellie’s family has come to light with the recent appearance of her daughter, Lyndsey, on The Baal Network (TBN, officially called the “Trinity Broadcasting Network”) with her grandparents, Kenneth and Gloria. Instead of her birth name of “Ward” she was introduced as Lyndsey Swisher instead.

Now, this brings serious questions to mind, since Lyndsey is well into her twenties by now: Why would she change her last name to “Swisher” when she would (theoretically) eventually get married within a few years and have another last name anyway? Did Stephen Swisher adopt her at this late age? Or did he marry more than one woman in the family? If not, is Lyndsey ever planning to get married (to a man)? And if she is, why would she bother to change her name now? If she does not plan to get married at some point (to a man), then why not? If she does marry (a man) at some point, is she planning to keep the name “Swisher” or treat the new husband with respect and take his last name instead? Did Lyndsey have any say-so in the decision to change her name to “Swisher,” or was this scheme hatched by her grandparents in order hide the number of step-fathers she has had over the years? If the latter, was that name change a requirement from Kenneth and Gloria in order to avoid embarrassing them even further regarding their family’s appalling marriage/divorce record?

Lindsy (Ward) "Swisher" appears on TBN on June 22, 2011 with Kenneth and Gloria Copeland.

Lyndsey (Ward) “Swisher” appears on TBN on June 22, 2011 with Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. (click to enlarge)

KCM's own announcement about their TBN appearance, listing Lindsey "Swisher" as a guest.

KCM’s own announcement about their TBN appearance, listing Lyndsey “Swisher” as a guest. Note: The announcement above is for the taping date, but the air date was changed to June 22. (click to enlarge)

Other than God, only the Copelands (and their lawyers) know…and they are not in the habit of telling anybody the truth about their family or ministry. So unless another whistle blower comes forth, we can only speculate why Lyndsey changed her name.


John and Marty Copeland:

John David Copeland was born June 30, 1966; only a few months before his parents moved to Tulsa, Oklahoma to attend ORU in December of 1966. He was married to his wife Martha J. “Marty” Mercer on May 2, 1987 according to Texas state records. They have had three children in total, Courtney, Jonathan, and Alexandria.

John Copeland

John Copeland


Marty Mercer Copeland

Marty Mercer Copeland

According to her testimony, Marty came from a family of ten. However, she shares very little about her family. One possible reason for this is that her father was known to have served BOTH on the board of Kenneth Copeland Ministries and the boards of several beer breweries.


Jeremy D. Pearsons

Jeremy D. Pearsons is the son George Davis Pearsons and Terri Copeland Pearsons, Kenneth’s daughter from his first marriage to Ivy Sandra Copeland. So Jeremy is Kenneth’s grandson, but Gloria is not related to him except by marriage.

George Pearsons

George Pearsons


Terri Pearsons

Terri Pearsons

According to widely spread Internet accounts, his divorce from Amy C. Cranmer Pearsons was final in May of 2006.

Jeremy is the only Copeland family member to date who has publicly discussed his divorce. He did so in a very open manner before Eagle Mountain International Church (EMIC). Details were limited, however; and of course, Amy’s side of the story was not given.

It is probable that the high awareness among the congregation at EMIC of his first marriage and subsequent quick divorce may have been the cause of Jeremy (and his family) taking the unusual step of addressing the issue somewhat publicly. Regardless, it is a remarkable and rare occurrence, as the Copeland-Neece clan is very secretive about their marital and moral failures.

Jeremy Pearsons with his second wife, Sarah.

Jeremy Pearsons with his second wife, Sarah.

Jeremy then married his second wife, Sarah Hart Pearsons on September 1, 2007. The two appear regularly together in a variety of venues.

A recent publicity image for Jeremy and Sarah Pearsons.

A recent publicity image for Jeremy and Sarah Pearsons. (click to enlarge)


The Copelands’ Elite “No See Ex” Team:

As is mentioned above, ex-spouses of the Copeland-Pearsons-Neece clan abound. Counting only the ex-spouses that we know about, there are at least 13 (thirteen) casualties, out of 14 (fourteen) divorces.

Another very concerning fact is that the ex-spouses tend to just “disappear” and are rarely ever heard from again at KCM or EMIC (with the notable exception of Doug’s ex-wife, Delaine Neece). This is a very troubling aspect, as there were children involved in many of those marriages (more than one in several). This mysterious way in which the Copelands handle their ex-family members is very disturbing. One person commented about this on a related online discussion thread, “What ever happened to Win Kutz? Is he dead?” No. Others have asked, “Did he die in a plane crash flying one of Kenneth’s Cessna airplanes in 2008?” Again, the answer is “no,” but the Copelands sure did apply every effort to make him “disappear.”

The famous illusionist, David Copperfield, would probably be amazed.

Nevertheless, there is a trail of devastated lives in the wake of some of the Copeland-Pearsons-Neece family members. Statistically speaking, it is an improbability that such a large number of marriage failures could be the primary fault of the ex-spouses. Given the multiple marriages/divorces of some within the Copeland-Pearsons-Neece clans, it is highly probable that the key issues were on the part of the family members themselves — and the overall family in general — and not as much on the part of the ex-spouses.

We do not know the details, of course. However, again, we are checking the “fruit” of the Copeland-Pearsons-Neece families, and using the biblical “family test” to see if they are qualified for active ministry.So their ‘marital wasteland’ is a ‘fruit’ that needs to be addressed — and the sheer size of it needs to be considered soberly.

Regardless, divorces are not pleasant experiences; and all parties tend to suffer to some degree. Let’s pray that these wounds might heal — but especially for the wounds among the ex-spouses cast aside by the Copeland-Pearsons-Neece family. There are just too many of them for there NOT to be some extremely hurt and wounded souls among their number.

(A personal note to all the ex-spouses of the Copeland-Pearsons-Neece family: Please accept our sincere regrets that our efforts to expose the real nature this family necessitated airing these matters publicly. We truly detest having to include any of you at all. We can only imagine what you all have seen and suffered, so please understand our sincere regrets for having to press forward publicly with such matters.)


Things NOT Said…

Of course, we left many improprieties unaddressed in this brief outline. With the exception of the Scott and Missy Johnson episode, we did not address issues related to current and former KCM/EMIC staff members in order to focus on the combined Copeland-Pearsons-Neece family.

We did not even address all the issues within the family itself, for various reasons.

Part of the reason we have refrained is the obvious difficulty there is in firmly confirming accusations of adultery, spousal abuse, and pornography use, committed by Copeland family members and KCM/EMIC staff (both present and past).

However, the fact that such rumors are so prolific among current and former insiders at KCM/EMIC gives one much reason to believe that at least some of these stories may be quite true. Therefore, we are only mentioning them here in vague reference until such time as additional “whistle blowers” come forth to substantiate anything that we might choose to publish at a future date (if we deem such things both biblical and appropriate to disclose).

Hopefully, the Copeland and Neece families will repent beforehand, and spare us such an unsavory task.


The Big Question:

Now that we have examined the Copelands, the Pearsons, and the Neeces, in some detail, the question is whether they pass the biblical ‘Family Test’ and qualify for continuing ministry. Do they fit the descriptions given by Paul of godly men and women fit for the pulpit, such as when he wrote:

Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)

(1 Timothy 3:3-5 , NIV)

The "Building Relationships that Last" advertisement found on the inside of the front cover in the July, 2010 issue of the BVOV Magazine.

The “Building Relationships that Last” ad found inside the front cover in the July, 2010 issue of the BVOV Magazine. (Click to enlarge.)

Given the evidence at hand (and much more that will be posted on in due time) I have regrettably concluded a firm “no.”

We have already covered elsewhere on this website the many documentable lies and probable frauds of the Copelands. However, when one just considers The ‘Family Test’ point, this family has shown itself in great need of repentance. And when we look at the great lengths they have gone through to HIDE these issues rather than removing them, it would seem this family could use a nice long sabbatical coupled with some good biblical family and marriage counseling.

And can anybody look at the above family history and conclude that the Copelands are qualified to be teaching others about Building Relationships that Last? Most people that I know who have reviewed the information herein have soundly concluded that the Copelands are NOT qualified for the pulpit at present at all, much less to minister to others on these topics.

Nevertheless, they are now offering a Relationships Life Line Kit by Kenneth and Gloria Copeland (for only $19.99) as the image from their July 2010 issue of the Believer’s Voice of Victory Magazine reveals.



More to Come…

We will be posting some more detailed accounts of select members of the Copeland family in separate posts very soon. We may also be updating this particular web page from time to time as new information and documents come to light. Check back to this page regularly to obtain the most accurate and up to date information.

Once again, we and our growing number of advocates are still calling on Kenneth Copeland, his family, and his ministry, to simply repent…AND get saved!

And on this last important note above: Donna and I highly recommend that you now proceed to the next article within this “Are the Copelands Biblical Qualified for Ministry” section—Is Kenneth Copeland SAVED?—wherein we discuss not only Kenneth, but also Gloria, and by extension, the entire family. Documented facts are examined in the light of Scripture, and some revealing videos are embedded in there also to further substantiate the biblical concerns being raised therein.

Grace and blessings to all of you who
love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity.

(Ephesians 6:24)


Always in Jesus,

-Rich Vermillion


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The ‘Family Test’




The ‘Family Test’



It is our responsibility as believers to check out ministers in accordance with God’s Word. And one of the primary qualifications given in Scripture for prospective and active ministers is regarding their family and marital stability.

Paul wrote within his “pastoral letters” of 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus that prospective deacons, elders, and overseers, needed to be tested and verified before entrusting them with such positions of responsibility:


Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

Deacons, likewise, are to be men worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.

In the same way, their wives are to be women worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well. Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

(1 Timothy 3:2-13, NIV)


An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. Since an overseer is entrusted with God’s work, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

(Titus 1: 6-9, NIV)


And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.

(2 Timothy 2:2, NIV)


These qualifications Paul listed were prerequisites for ministry, which means they are foundations upon which a true ministry should be built. Being foundational, these qualifications remain ongoing requisites for continued ministry as well.


Marriage and The Family:


Two of the key foundational requisites for ministry listed above are a sound marriage, and a stable family. If the marriage of a minister (or their family) were discovered to be falling apart, God’s Word would necessarily disqualify them from active ministry until such time as these issues were repaired and/or resolved.

When I served as an instructor in a bible institute to prepare Christian men and women for ministry, it happened to be that the two courses I taught were Christian Doctrines and Marriage and the Family. Over the years, I have come to believe that these two topics are critical for any Christian minister to be established within their calling. Most ministers fall due to either bad doctrine, or marriage/family failures (and often for both reasons).

God’s Word reveals that He is into family; and that He requires stable marriages and orderly households of His chosen vessels. Too often, a minister “sacrifices” his or her spouse and/or family on the “alter” of personal ambition because their priorities are out of line with God’s Word. Such spiritual and psychological deficiencies need to be repented of and corrected, or alternately, exposed as a warning to others. The only OTHER alternative is to have many wounded lives and disillusioned parishioners.

Given the number of broken marriages and families that litter the field of ministry today, it would seem the facts bear witness that such important aspects of the lives of preachers are severely neglected and need to be addressed publicly.


An Absurdity:


Can anyone rightly say that marital and familial stability are not important? How many “unexpected” divorces have shocked church congregations and/or Christian television viewers? I know of many.

How many “revelations” of adultery (or worse) have emerged from “celebrity” minister families, and crushed the faith of shocked believers? Again, I am aware of numerous.

How many “preacher kids” have come into the public limelight for criminal activity, failed marriages, drug abuse, or worse? I could name more than a few.

So it would be an absolute absurdity for anyone to suggest that the marriages and families of ministers are unimportant subjects to be examined when evaluating a ministry.

In truth, if the Body of Christ were more diligent to identify problems before they exploded into the public light on their own (in all their ugly character), we could probably prevent much of the pain and suffering that has occurred among Christian leadership—and especially among their wounded followers.

This principle applies to the Copeland family as much as to any other group of ministers throughout history.


A Touchy Subject:


As soon as one begins examining the familial and marital qualifications of an active preacher, however, there are some people who become rather angry that a minister’s “privacy” was invaded. I am certainly sympathetic to such concern. After all, who really wants to have their personal problems aired publicly? And what honest God-fearing believer really wants to hear about these things?

Nevertheless, the Bible is very clear in the above precepts that we must examine such issues.

In fact, can anyone say that the Scriptures themselves are not loaded with marital and family details? How do we know about Bathsheba? Or Jacob’s two wives? Or where did we find out about the strife among their twelve sons? Moses’ marital problems with Zipporah, and his several subsequent marriages are all there to see “in full color” also. Within the New Testament, we learn about Peter traveling with his Christian wife and about Ananias and Sapphira dropping dead during a church service.

So, the examples found within the Bible give us plenty of confirmation that God has intended for us to know such things about the people who have leadership roles in our lives. We do not have to know all the “gory details” so to speak, but we should certainly know whether there are sufficient problems to question a minister’s current qualification for leadership and ministry.

Consequently, and regrettably, we must press forward in disclosing such information…

This section of is the one we regret having to do the most. However, family and marriage issues are certainly one category that should be examined, so we will be examining the Copeland and Neece families to see if Kenneth Copeland Ministries is all that it is has reported itself to be.


Our biblical examination will begin by examining Kenneth and Gloria Copeland: The Untold Story.


So again, we and our growing number of advocates are still calling on Kenneth Copeland, his family, and his ministry, to simply repent.

Grace and blessings to all of you who love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity (Ephesians 6:24)..

Always in Jesus,

-Rich Vermillion


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